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Re: [Phys-l] Japan situation : information, or lack thereof



Bill N. and Bill M.,

Thanks for the information on the sea-based reactors. Are we still monitoring the Thresher/Scorpion reactors? I wonder if they will retain their integrity over long periods of time exposed to the sea water. I understand that Thresher hit the bottom at a pretty good rate of speed, so its reactor was probably subjected to a pretty good stress test, but unless the claims of those who assert that Scorpion's accident was caused by an exploding torpedo are right, my understanding so Scorpion's accident was due to a collision with an undersea mountain. Obviously not good for the ship or its crew, but not as potentially damaging as a high-speed impact with the ocean bottom.

But I guess that my concern about the reactors would be as a result of battle damage, rather than simply from the sinking. If the reactor suffers a direct hit from a large explosive weapon, which subsequently sinks, will it retain its integrity, or could this spread the reactor "all over the sea bottom"?

I think that the reactors being PWRs makes sense except that, it doesn't seem consistent with them not supporting superheaters for the propulsion steam. I know that in an oil-fired ship, the saturated steam is fed back into the burner in a separate heat exchanger which heats the saturated steam to the higher temperature. Maybe I don't understand the heat exchange process between the primary and secondary water systems, but it does seem that it should be possible to put the saturated steam back through the heat exchanger to superheat it even in a nuclear reactor. Can either of you tell me why this isn't done? My experience was in the weapons department and not engineering or reactor so I have to admit, I'm not expert on how the superheaters worked, but I do know that every steam engineer I knew during my navy career was a firm advocate of superheated steam as a reliable and highly versatile propulsion system.

Also, since you served on Enterprise after I did, Bill M., can you tell me what the lifetime of that refueling (the second, IIRC) was intended to be, and if, after the third refueling, is it scheduled for or has it gotten a fourth (and last) one?

My understanding is that it is scheduled for decommissioning sometime around 2030--a very long lifetime for a modern man-o-war.

And one last question that I didn't know enough to ask my reactor officer buddy at the time, is the fuel in these reactors a permanent installation, like in the submarines? My recollection is that the entire reactors were going to be pulled out and replaced with new ones during the 1970 refueling, so I assume that means that the fuel was an integral part of the reactor and when this fuel was depleted, the reactor and its depleted fuel would be scrapped. Is my recollection correct? I also know that the fuel in the SSNs is HEU. Is that also true of the fuel in the surface ships? I suspect it is, but I don't know for sure.

Hugh
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Hugh Haskell
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