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Re: [Phys-l] Climate skeptic convinced by data. Was: Re: Mike Mann _The hockey



At 1:01 PM -0600 2/20/12, David Marx wrote:

There is a
correlation between per capita energy usage and GDP

There is a relationship between the two, but it is much more complex than your comment implies. California's per capita energy use has been nearly constant for the past 40 years but the state's GDP has increased well beyond inflation. The relationship between energy use and GDP is changing in all developed nations, moving to less of an effect, as exemplified by the California experience. A significant fraction of China's recent increase in per capita energy use is due to its heavy investment in manufacturing for other nations (not just to sell their products to other nations but to build the products specified by and designed in foreign industries, and intended for sale in those countries rather than in China).

Energy use reduction as a result of efficiency improvements will not reduce GDP, and will more likely increase it.

Energy use reduction by conservation efforts will more likely shift the investment energy elsewhere than reduce it--from building new power plants to other investments to take advantage of the newly available capital and the available energy.

Converting energy production from polluting and GHG-emitting sources to clean sources will require capital investments and will also free up more capital for more useful investments, such as modernizing the electric grid and electrifying the transportation sector.

Reduction in total energy use as well as pollution doe to energy production will save billions of $$ in health care and environmental damage mitigation.

These actions will not damage our economy, they will energize it.

Hugh

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Hugh Haskell
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I have been wondering for a long time why some of our own defense officials do not
put more emphasis on finding a good substitute for oil and worry less about where
more oil is to come from. Our people are ingenious. New discoveries are all around
us, and when we have to make them, we nearly always do.

Eleanor Roosevelt
February 13, 1948