Re: [Phys-l] Climate skeptic convinced by data. Was: Re: Mike Mann _The hockey stick and the climate wars_

[Bernard Cleyet <bernardcleyet@redshift.com>]

Warning:

I haven't read all the posts carefully so may be duplicative --

Thoughts:

The year of no Summer in Britain.  (Krakatoa?)  Was there no Summer WW?  Of course I suspect the aerosols and smoke would have a deleterious health effect. (unless confined to the stratosphere?)

I have an unread book that claims climate is affected by the solar wind and has correlated it.  [IIRC]

A negative feedback -- increased ocean temp. increased clouds and albedo -- the climatologist have "factored" this in their models?


Regarding the effect -- a die off of humans beginning soon (30 years?**), then increased flora to return to "normal" temp. within a few millennia?


A repeat won't happen, as all the carbonaceous fuel will be spent. 

bc

**  Already a few hundred thousand.  Malvinas cabinet meeting underwater.


On 2012, Feb 18, , at 14:38, Hugh Haskell wrote:

> At 1:33 PM -0700 2/18/12, John Denker wrote:
> > I'm sorry to pick out one sentence that I don't entirely agree
> > with, but here goes:
> >
> > > it is probable that at least much of the
> > > change can be mitigated by increasing the earth's albedo, which is a
> > > bit of geoengineering that we can do and probably can control.
> >
> > The "control" part is still open to question.
>
> I don't disagree with JD's quibble about my comment on albedo change 
> as a controllable bit of geoengineering. I probably should have use 
> the adjective "possible" instead of probable. In general, I am not a 
> fan of the approach to solving the problem by geoengineering. It is a 
> dangerous game and controlling it will probably be more difficult 
> that anyone realizes.