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Re: [Phys-l] Re. Simultaneity



On 05/21/2009 07:46 AM, LaMontagne, Bob wrote:
Aren't both methods correct? ... Neither is right or wrong - it's a
matter of what you are trying to accomplish.

Well, yes .... but that shouldn't be given too much weight.
It's true that sometimes you want a carrot and sometimes you
want a parrot, but they are not equivalent, and not even
closely related.

One produces contravariant componets,
the other produces covariant.

Nope.

Here's a simple disproof: The whole idea of covariant versus
contravariant depends on having a metric, i.e. some way to calculate
dot products, lengths, and angles. In contrast, though, choosing to
follow the parrot-contours or to follow the carrot-contours is well
defined even in situations (such as thermodynamics) where you don't
have a metric.

Other disproofs are readily available.

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Constructive suggestion: You can easily make a large majority of such
projection-related questions go away. No answer is required; the question
just never comes up. As explained in my previous note: Axes are evil.
Get rid of the axes. Instead follow contours of constant X, constant Y,
constant T, et cetera.