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Nope.

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On Jan 29, 2020, at 8:27 PM, brian whatcott <betwys1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Bill, since you insist I offer a more direct judgment I will say this.
I set aside as far as I can, any study which used American physicians and epidemiologists because, since medicine was converted by Congressional law to a profit-making enterprise, U.S results are at once made suspect by the ever present profit motif in medicine and also in law-making mediated by lobbyists, but also by the known discrepancies of life-expectancy as between the US and a number of other countries.

Instead, I prefer to look at European studies where lobbyists' efforts are less all-encompassing, though sadly, not absent.
If I search for studies intended to study the relation between autism and popular vaccines like MMR (Measles, Mumps Rubella) I come upon papers like this one as a sample of the general European approach to vaccination*,*though it suffers statistically because it is retrospectiveand it carries a U.S imprimatur ~
Annals of Internal Medicine:

n = 657 461 children born in Denmark from 1999 through 31 December 2010, with follow-up from 1 year of age and through 31 August 2013.

During 5 025 754 person-years of follow-up, 6517 children were diagnosed with autism (incidence rate, 129.7 per 100 000 person-years). Comparing MMR-vaccinated with MMR-unvaccinated children yielded a fully adjusted autism hazard ratio of 0.93 (95% CI, 0.85 to 1.02). Similarly, no increased risk for autism after MMR vaccination was consistently observed in subgroups of children defined according to sibling history of autism, autism risk factors (based on a disease risk score) or other childhood vaccinations, or during specified time periods after vaccination.

https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2727726/measles-mumps-rubella-vaccination-autism-nationwide-cohort-study

Is this sufficiently blunt (head-on) to meet your requirement?

Brian W

On 1/29/2020 6:01 PM, Bill Norwood via Phys-l wrote:
Brian,
- You keep drawing attention away from the central issue.
- Please, let me see you address head-on the issue about the degree to which you are responsible to perform objective research designed to maximally defend those you care about against the ravages of autism.
Bill

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On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:09 PM, brian whatcott <betwys1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Bill,

I am not a climatologist. Should I do my own objective research, read 50 books on the topic possibly - before accepting the global warming hypothesis?
I am not a brilliant or even a mediocre physicist, by the way, just as you would probably agree you are not an epidemiologist.

Brian W
p.s. I DO know how 'endemic' is defined - and that's something!

On 1/29/2020 12:38 PM, Bill Norwood via Phys-l wrote:
Brian Whatcott,
- Yes, I have studied and worked roughly 1000 hours on the vaccine problem, and I readily admit that I do not know it all.
- Even the producers of the documentary for which I wrote the transcript, which involves several board-certified physicians as well as an array of other highly qualified specialists, virtually admit via an add-on that their documentary does not “know it all.”
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