Re: Moon landing Hoax (spinoffs)

[Bob & Kathie Yeend <ryeend@EARTHLINK.NET>]

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> From: "Bernard G. Cleyet & Nancy Ann Seese" <georgeann@REDSHIFT.COM>
> To: PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu
> Subject: Re: Moon landing Hoax (spinoffs)
> Date: Fri, Feb 23, 2001, 10:51 PM

> The implication, as I read the Yeends, is the tax paid by Corning will recover
> the cost of the moon program.  Surely,  it would have been cheaper if the
> govt. had set out to create a superior cooking utensil material instead of
> getting it by accident from the space program.
I did not at all imply that this tax would recover the cost of the moon
program, nor do I see how you could have inferred that from my statement:

<<<The correl that I've purchased has been pretty inexpensive. I don't see
why
it would be cheaper if Corning were paying royalties to the government for
each piece produced. They do pay tax on any profit they make from sales.>>>



> Justifying the space program by claiming spin-offs is, as Gate Keeper (NAS)
> says, s*** talk.  Again, I was and now am against the moon project -- if I
> weren't so non-anti-soviet, I'd have suggested letting them waste their money
> on doing it.  They did waste a lot in their attempt, but I understand they
> stopped when "we" won.  That suggests the effort was largely a propaganda
> exercise.  I have one slight reservation in my condemnation of the project, i.
> e. if success led to sufficiently increased productivity, morale, etc., then
> one could justify it.  However, I doubt if it made more than a few %
> difference.  The Viet Nam invasion soon overshadowed any effect.
>
> Also, I'm not against some big science when there is no alternative, and the
> expected scientific result is great. How to quantify?  At the same time I'm
> saddened to read recently that "we" have dropped even further as measured by
> our health.  Cuba is reported to have the finest pediatric hospital in the
> Western Hemisphere -- They export Doctors; "we" export munitions and
> assassins.  (They did "export" the solders that were instrumental in winning
> the battle of Cuito Cunavale, for which Mandela in a speech at Matanzas
> thanked the people of Cuba.)

> bc
>
>
> P.s. Please don't confuse the purchase price with the cost to society.
>
> Bob & Kathie Yeend wrote:
>
> > The correl that I've purchased has been pretty inexpensive. I don't see why
> > it would be cheaper if Corning were paying royalties to the government for
> > each piece produced. They do pay tax on any profit they make from sales.
> >  --
> > Bob and Kathie Yeend <ryeend@earthlink.net>
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: "Bernard G. Cleyet & Nancy Ann Seese" <georgeann@REDSHIFT.COM>
> > > To: PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu
> > > Subject: Re: Moon landing Hoax (spinoffs)
> > > Date: Fri, Feb 23, 2001, 7:19 PM
> >
> > > How many billion $ for how many dishes   Their actual cost $100 each?
> > >
> > > bc
> > >
> > > P.s. I've never heard of it.  We use Pyrex -- probably not a govt.
> > > discovery.
> > >
> > > P.p.s.  This is another example of socialism for the corporations and
> > > capitalism for the poor.  The corps. get the patents free from tax
> > > supported research, and we pay at inflated prices to buy the results.
> > >
> > > Tim O'Donnell wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Surely the cost, spin off ratio is very high.  Would not a
> > > > > direct "attack" on the "spin-offs" have yielded results less
> > > > > expensively and more rapidly?
> > > >
> > > > But the spin-offs may not have been researched.
> > > > Corning came up with "correl ware" as a possible heat
> > > > sheilding.  It did not work out for that, but I have alot of
> > > > correl plate and bowls.  I don't think Corning would have
> > > > activiely searched for a new material to make dishware.
> > > >
> > > > Tim O'Donnell
> > > > Instructor of Physics and Chemistry
> > > > Celina High School
> > > > 715 East Wayne Street
> > > > Celina, Ohio 45822
> > > > (419) 586-8300 Ext 1200 or 1201
> > > > odonnt@celina.k12.oh.us
> > > >
> > > > "Chance only favors the prepared mind." - Louis Pasteur