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Re: Exit tests



We recently had to settle on some sort of exit exam because our
accrediting body, the North Central Association, is requiring extensive
assessment from all their accredited colleges and universities.

The problem with the GRE is that it compares your graduates primarily
to grad-school-bound students. What we really need is a
nationally-normed exam for all physics graduates whether they are
headed to grad school, industry, high-school teaching, whatever.
Educational Testing Service does have another set of exams called the
"Major Field Tests." That's what we're using now. It is working, but
there are a couple problems.

(1) The "norm group" is not a random sample because ETS can only use
exams from those institutions who choose to use the Major Field Tests.
Perhaps as more colleges and universities are required to do
assessment this test (or a similar one) will be used enough that the
norm group becomes a better cross-section.

(2) ETS gives very little information about the exam content, and we
professors are not supposed to look at it. Thus it is hard for us to
judge where are students are weak and strong, and it is not obvious how
to "improve" the scores of our students. At least with the GRE exam
you can obtain copies of expired exams, and there are booklets telling
students how to study for it, complete with practice exams. At this
point the Major Field Test, by comparison, is somewhat of a stab in the
dark.

If there are other good options out there, I would like to hear about
them.


Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D. Phone/voice-mail: 419-358-3270
Professor of Chemistry & Physics FAX: 419-358-3323
Chairman, Science Department E-Mail edmiston@bluffton.edu
Bluffton College
280 West College Avenue
Bluffton, OH 45817



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Lisantti [SMTP:lisantti@PHYSICS.CENTENARY.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:45 AM
To: PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU
Subject: Exit tests

Our department is currently thinking about assessment tools for our
graduating seniors. One idea is for them to take a standardized exam
in
physics such as the physics GRE. Does anyone know of any other
standardized tests that would be appropriate for assessing our physics
program?

Thanks

Jerry Lisantti
lisantti@physics.centenary.edu
Dept. of Physics and Engineering http://alpha.centenary.edu
Centenary College of Louisiana
Shreveport, LA 71134
318.869.5219