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Re: [Phys-L] Quantum Biology



True, but does the classical model "require" the atom to be a point? I
question that statement. A classical model can very well determine that the
atom is not a point, but it can not explain why. So the atomic radius would
then just be a parameter in a classical model. Indeed all models have
parameters that can not be explained, but that are needed to make the model
work.

John M. Clement
Houston, TX

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On Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:31 PM, John Clement
<clement@hal-pc.org> wrote:


> Now many physics courses do suppose a point particle
model, but I don't think they say that the atom has to have
zero size
classically.  Isn't the size of an atom just a parameter in a given
classical model?
  In any point-like particle model, a stable classical Hy
atom would be point-like. At best (assuming the known finite
size of the proton), it would have the size of the order of 1
Fermi. No classical model with Coulomb interaction between
the nucleus and the electron can explain the actual size (the
Bohr radius) of a Hy atom. Paradoxically as it may sound, but
in the final run, it is the QM indeterminacy that determines
the exact atomic size.

Moses Fayngold,NJIT



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