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Re: [Phys-L] widget rate puzzle ... reasoning, scaling, et cetera



Two approaches came to mind. The first one is related to a method I once found myself using to teach nursing students how to calculate various dosages...start with what you know and make incremental changes to one thing at a time as you work toward what you want.

Starting from: 5 minutes for 5 machines to make 5 widgets.

We want 100 widgets. That's 20 times as many widgets. So if we still use 5 machines, it will take 20 times longer or 100 minutes.

Now we are at: 100 minutes for 5 machines to make 100 widgets.

We want to use 100 machines. That's 20 times as many, which will reduce the time to 100/20 = 5 minutes which brings us to:

5 minutes for 100 machines to make 100 widgets.

Should I be embarrassed to admit that this was the first method I used to get the answer?

But a second approach: Time required varies directly with job size and inversely with job rate. So a 20-fold increase in both of those things will leave the time unchanged. This is the kind of thinking I steadily encourage my students to use. But not many of them embrace this. I think one of the barriers is actually number-sense fluency or whatever you want to call it. You have to see 100 and 5 and immediately be thinking about the ratio. That is not a universal among my students.



So for 5 machines
On 12/31/2014 2:15 PM, Carl Mungan wrote:
It takes 5 minutes for 5 machines to make 5 widgets.
So, how many minutes does it take for 100 machines
to make 100 widgets?

How I would explain it.

Start with given rate data:

Divide output (widgets) by input (machines) => each machine makes 1 widget.

Divide production of each machine by total time => each widget takes 5
minutes to make.

Repeat for unknown rate data:

Divide output (widgets) by input (machines) => each machine makes 1 widget.

Multiply production of each machine by time to make each output => it take
5 minutes.

In each case, the second step is a formula of the form: total time/time per
item = number of items produced per machine. The first step is a formula of
the form: total number of items produced/total number of machines producing
items = number of items produced per machine. So we could equate these two
ratios.

Somewhat similar concepts arise in converting number of molecules, number
of moles, number of kilograms, molar mass, number and mass density, etc. In
both cases, the trick seems to be come up with a formula in words and check
it by carrying units and by putting in some sample numbers to see if it
makes sense.