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Re: [Phys-L] raining



Elaborating further on my previous post.

Assume the walking/running direction is horizontal/perpendicular to the 
vertically falling rain & assuming the falling rain has a uniform distribution 
in space and time.

Let ρ = mass density of falling rain (per unit volume of air + rain).
Let L = horizontal distance walked/ran through in the rain.
Let v_t = (mass weighted) mean terminal velocity of falling raindrops
Let v = speed of walking/running
Let A_th = body's projected top facing horizontal cross section area.
Let A_fv = body's projected front facing vertical cross section area.
Let W = mass of water intercepted by moving body.

Then W = ρ*L*(A_fv + (v_t/v)*A_th) .

This is just the projected gross rain interception rate due to simple 
kinematics.  It obviously neglects the hydrodynamics of tiny deflected air 
motions partially carrying drops in the immediate vicinity of body collisions 
with drops causing altered localized trajectories of drops that could affect 
the collision rate by a tiny amount.

But a much bigger neglected effect is due to wind.  Wind causes a number of 
complications.  Here are 4 of them off the top of my head.  First, wind tends 
to be gusty & quite time dependent and thus hard to model.  Second, wind 
changes the direction of the falling rain so the direction of the projected 
area perpendicular to it must also change.  Third, because of the poly-disperse 
distribution of drop sizes there is a distribution of different terminal 
velocities of the drops and this causes different sized drops to fall/move in 
different directions at different speeds.  Fourth, there is a Galilean 
transformation involved for the effective walking speed due to any component of 
wind which may be parallel the walking direction, and this changes the 
effective walking speed for those drops which are carried with that horizontal 
component of velocity by the wind.

I suspect there are even more complications from wind, but I'm not in the mood 
to try to think of them.

David Bowman

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Assuming a temporally and spatially constant/uniform density of rain water in 
the air (and an upright posture) then the amount of rain striking your head and 
shoulders (and any surface with a horizontal projection) from above will be 
proportional to the time you spend out in the rain.  But the amount of rain 
striking your front side (and any surface with a front facing vertical 
projection) will be constant independent of time (within reason) since that 
amount of water is just the constant amount of rain in the volume of space you 
must sweep through on your way through the rain laden air to get to where you 
are going.  Thus, your front side gets just as wet no matter how fast you move 
through the rain.  But your head and shoulders will get the least wet if the 
pass through the rainy region as fast as possible.

David Bowman


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Trying to get a "scientific" answer to the question: will you get more wet
if you walk or run in the rain? Conflicting results/videos online, and some
consider wind and leaning bodies. I just want the basic parameter that the
rain is falling straight down and the person is moving "upright."
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