Re: [Phys-L] Lab reports by non-native English speakers

[Diego Saravia <dsa@unsa.edu.ar>]

google translator is not good enough?
I speak spanish, but if I need to write in english I begin translating with
google,

Of course If you want to teach them to write in english is another cuestion.

El jue, 23 sept 2021 a las 9:17, Ali Eryılmaz via Phys-l (<
phys-l@mail.phys-l.org>) escribió:

> I am not a native speaker of English. Sorry for any failings.
>
> In order to decide what to measure (grade) in a course, we have to look
> at our objectives. If our aim is to teach it then we should measure it.
> Otherwise we shouldn't measure it.
>
> As a finger rule, if we are teaching it as a part of our course, then we
> should measure it. Otherwise we shouldn't measure it. However, even if
> you do not teach it in your course but you think that it is important,
> giving feedback for improvement could be excellent without grading it.
>
> Regards,
>
> _________________
> Dr. Ali Eryılmaz
>
> On 22.9.21 17:23, Peter Schoch wrote:
> > I am in a quandry, and need some perspective from anyone who routinely
> has
> > non-native English speakers in their classes.   This is the first time,
> in
> > a long time, that I have non-native English speaking foreign students in
> my
> > Physics class (and not all from the same country).  I have all my
> students
> > write lab reports, one every other week, rather than "papers" -- I
> consider
> > this the science-y equivalent of writing across the curriculum.
> >
> > My problem is that because these students are not native speakers their
> > grammar suffers.  I don't want to penalize them for not being native
> > English speakers/writers, on the other hand I believe I need to deduct
> some
> > points for failings.  For instance, awkward phrasing or poor word choice
> > may just be a translation problem and I want to allow that -- with
> > suggestions for improvement.  However, conjoining sentences into run-ons,
> > or having poor transitions between ideas I would think are not
> translation
> > problems and should be penalized.
> >
> > I would be grateful for any suggestions, etc.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Peter Schoch
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