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Re: [Phys-l] Lecture Isn't Effective: More Evidence #2



One bias, probably unintentional, is that the instructor/researcher KNOWS the questions on the FCI. Even without actually reviewing the test itself, even without going over the answers if given as a pre-test, it is easy enough to (over)emphasize certain concepts, ideas, reasoning, and/or tricks that will help when the students take (again) the FCI. It is certainly very possible--in fact fairly obvious--that 'new' courses/techniques can be targeted precisely at the questions on the FCI. Another aspect that bothers me with all this is that the material that is the basis for the FCI usually occupies less than a chapter in most intro text books, meaning a week or two maximum in instructional/demo/lab time on the topics in a traditional course. I doubt that too many of the PER based courses that show great improvements in FCI scores are so limited in coverage time.

The two 'unanswered' (to my mind) big questions about PER based courses (and I mean by that really focused techniques like guided enquiry versus a collection of techniques that are aimed at improving interaction--which is what I think most of us tend to use) are 1) do we get better physicists, engineers, etc. out the back end of the curricula (for other students the question--already raised--are the course goals). 2) How well would a heavy dose of such instruction prepare students for 'life-long' learning--leaning on one's own, from reading, from attending meetings, from collaboration with colleagues, etc.

To say it again, the 'straw-man' lecture is less of an issue here than the suggested need for (overly) structured instructional techniques. Student responsibility for their own learning comes into play with an emphasis on time applied to their studies. IMO, we should not surrender to the pressures of changing 'social' behavior, much of which is robbing everyone of free-time and privacy, to restructure courses without much 'outside class' work. [Such is actually a big draw for students when the word gets out that they will have almost no work to do outside the classroom.] Doing so will be a detriment (again IMO) to students in the long term.

The last point which I think is implied in some of Jack's remarks, is that we now see Physicists trying to do psychological research. I suspect that many of the 'skeptics' have a problems with the attempts to make such research into the 'equivalent' if physical science research. Way too many uncontrolled variables, little chance when the education of students is at risk for double blind tests, too difficult to separate the research from the developer, to have the kinds of certainties that some claim here. To answer another question that was posed--there is nothing wrong, and I suspect little opposition, to trying new ideas, to trying to mix new teaching techniques with our 'old tried and true', to constantly work at improving our instruction. What is objectionable is to be constantly berated by some with their 'religious' zeal that their way is the 'one true path' and that anything resembling what was done in the past is the 'road to hell'--and useless to boot!


Richard W. Tarara
Professor of Physics
Saint Mary's College
Notre Dame, IN 46556

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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Lulai
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:11 AM
To: jlu@hep.anl.gov ; phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Lecture Isn't Effective: More Evidence #2


"The difference is the fact that the AP exam is corrected and scored by independent 3d parties, unrelated to the teachers."

I feel there is an implied bias. However, I don't know how grading a m.c.test allows for much bias in grading. What am I missing?

Paul Lulai
Physics Teacher
St Anthony Village Senior High
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