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Re: [Phys-l] internal/external conservative/nonconservative forces!?!?



If this energy shows up as KE of the byproducts, then I think a student could legitimately ask "What force accelerated these byproducts to these high speeds?" I don't see how associating energy with the system versus the bonds helps the understanding of the chemistry. Simply reciting a scenario where PE decreases and KE increases does not produce understanding at a basic level - it's simply substituting a model for the dynamics. (This is why I became frustrated with Chemistry as an undergrad - too much scenario in the introductory courses.)

Bob at PC

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bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of John Clement
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Phys-l] internal/external conservative/nonconservative
forces!?!?


My example of bonds is very important to understanding chemistry.
Because
students will tell you there is energy in bonds and when you break them
you
get energy. So if you dissociate gasoline the student will tell you
that
releases energy. The student will tell you the same thing about the
Krebs
cycle. This misconception blocks understanding of chemical and
physical
reactions.

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