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Re: [Phys-l] Is Global Warming really a one-sided point of view ora scientif...



What has been the trend in average global temperature over the past 10
years?

Bob at PC



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In a message dated 3/14/2009 3:25:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rrhake@earthlink.net writes:

Some physics educators might be interested in a recent post "Re: Is
Global Warming really a one-sided point of view or a scientific fact?
#2" [Hake (2009)]. The abstract reads:

ABSTRACT: Bob Fuller in his PHYSOC post of 11 March 2009 asked: "Is
Global Warming really a one-sided point of view or a scientific
fact?" I doubt that any scientifically literate person would call
global warming a scientific "fact," but the scientific research
consensus is that anthropogenic global warming: (a) does indeed
exist [IPCC (2007a)] and (b) poses a threat to life on planet Earth
[IPCC (2007b)]. Rick Tarara responded that " 'Global Warming' has
become a semi-religious doctrine with all kinds of 'facts' of which
only some are scientific." Can Tarara pinpoint any "non-scientific
facts" in the IPCC reports? In any case, the generally ignored
gorilla in the living room is GLOBAL OVERPOPULATION as pointed out by
e.g., Al Bartlett (2008), Elmer Eisner (1999, 2009), and Chris Hedges
(2009).

To access the complete 18 kB post, please click on
<http://tinyurl.com/aj2fcg>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands.
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake/>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi/>
<http://HakesEdStuff.blogspot.com/>

REFERENCES
Hake, R.R. 2009. "Re: Is Global Warming really a one-sided point of
view or a scientific fact? #2," AERA-L post of 14 Mar 2009
09:33:00-0700, online on the OPEN! AERA-L achives at
<http://tinyurl.com/aj2fcg>. The abstract is also online at
<http://hakesedstuff.blogspot.com/2009/03/is-global-warming-point-of-vie
w-or.h
tml>
with provision for comments.



)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))0

There is a regular cottage industry of global warming denial, funded by
far
right organizations and the energy corporations. It's similar in many
ways to
the Intelligent design program and has its genesis in the Tobacco
companies
effort to create a "smoke screen" to hide the cancer issue associated
with
tobacco use. The strategy isn't to win the argument, but rather to
create the
illusion of controversy to provide cover for politicians to do nothing.


We are well past the point of doubt that global warming is a manmade
problem. And what has been obvious to many is that the IPCC report was
in fact
watered down to appease powerful interests. The situation is even
graver, there
are now identified positive feedback processes that will shorten the
time
needed to see the more series effects of global warming.

We are running into a perfect storm of woe of environmental stress,
overpopulation and resource depletion. It may well be that the
emergence intelligence
in evolution creates a species which due to its greater ability to
effect
the environment and extract resources generally results in mass
extinction's
including the intelligent specious itself. Based on the Drake equation
this
sadly might be the answer to Fermi's question, where are they, in
reference to
others forms of intelligent life.


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