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[Phys-l] Dot product (was nit vector notation)



Stimulated by the unit vector thread, I was reading John Denker's discussion at http://www.av8n.com/physics/intro-vector.htm and would like to question John (and others) about the dot product definition.

I agree with and appreciate John's comments that the dot product of vectors A and B should be defined as ABcos(theta). What I question is John's comment that A dot B should not appear in physics textbooks as AxBx + AyBy + AzBz, unless what he specifically means by "not appear" is that it should not appear as a definition. I think it should appear as one way to evaluate A dot B, and indeed can then be used along with the definition of A dot B to find the angle between A and B.

When I am discussing the dot product in my physics class defined as ABcos(theta), the question inevitably crops up "how do we find theta?" This is especially a common question in three-dimension situations.

It seems to me that showing there is a way to compute the dot product by choosing a basis, expressing the vectors using that basis, then applying the AxBx + AyBy + AzBz procedure is a worthwhile thing to teach and can appropriately appear in physics books. At the same time we can also discuss why ABcos(theta) is a good definition but AxBx + AyBy + AzBz is really a "computational procedure" (rather than a definition).

Comments?

Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D.
Professor of Chemistry and Physics
Bluffton University
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