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Re: [Phys-l] pinhole camera



There was an additional criterion posed by Michael P. viz. that the eye substituted for the screen does not see the object:

"With an actual real image formed by a lens, you can remove the screen
and still see the image if your eye is lined up with the object and
the lens. You cannot do this with a pinhole camera."


I presumed he had done the xpt. in confirmation of the above. Since prysbiopia, I often use stenopaeic vision and know one obviously sees the object. However, I had always used the "pin hole" -- usually a forefinger, rolled up in the thumb and finger angle, close to my eye, so I didn't "know" whether magnification results when the aperture is distant from the eye. I just tried it, curtains closed, using our front door's faux stained glass window. Wow!


Incidentally JD didn't mention in detail a very important "aberration" most peculiar to pin hole lenses.

I posted it only on tap-l, as it was the subject of a previous thread on PHYS-L -- anyway here it is again:

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Au contraire, to properly discuss pin hole (stenopaeic) imagery one must discuss diffraction. For example Ditchburn ("Light" 2nd ed. p. 280) asks: "... obtain an expression for the optimum value of the size of the hole in a pinhole camera." This has been discussed on PHYS-L.

bc, enjoys the Exploratorium's portable camera obscura.

p.s. a specific answer: Assuming a distant object, the hole-screen distance is the hole's "focal length", and using the Rayleigh criterion:

hole d = ~ 2 Lambda f/

cf. Rayleigh: "Scientific Papers" I, p. 513


[in response to:]

"When I teach optics in my (high school) course, I traditionally discuss
reflection leading into plane and curved mirrors, then refraction leading
into lenses. Does anyone incorporate pinhole cameras when they teach this
topic? It has been in the back of my mind for years, but there is
little/no math involved and "higher level" textbooks rarely mention them."

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bc, doubting Thomas.

Edmiston, Mike wrote:

It seems to me whether the pinhole forms an image depends on your
definition of image.

If your definition of "real image" includes that light falling on a
particular point in the image has converged on that point, then I guess
a pinhole does not form an image. But that's not my definition of real
image.

My definition of real image would be more like... Light passing through
a particular point on the image came from a particular point on the
object. That is, I see the object-image relationship as a one-to-one
mapping of light from one point on the object to one point on the image.
A pinhole does that. A pinhole does not do that perfectly, but as John
Denker said, a lens doesn't do that perfectly either.


Michael D. Edmiston, Ph.D.
Professor of Chemistry and Physics
Bluffton University
Bluffton, OH 45817
(419)-358-3270
edmiston@bluffton.edu
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