Re: [Phys-l] what kind of scientific suppression is this?

[Faraday321@aol.com]

In a message dated 3/21/2007 12:36:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
clement@hal-pc.org writes:

I would  say the connection between ID and being anti-global warming lies in
the  fact that a large amount of evidence is geological in nature and  extends
before the fundamentalist biblical creation date.  Even the  last ice age,
and possibly the creation of Stonhenge lie before that date,  so vast amounts
of evidence has to be rejected.  Actually it is really  a connection with
creationism, because ID technically allows an old earth,  and a big bang.

The spokesperson who rejected the big bang because he  favored ID doesn't
even know that ID allows the big bang, but not the  evolutionary model.

So if change over time has been rejected, then the  idea that we could have
catastrophic global warming is likewise  suspect.

The Tuesday NY Times has an article on this topic.  The  most damning fact is
that someone untrained in science was allowed to  tamper with scientific
conclusions.

John M. Clement
Houston,  TX

>
 
Yes good points. In my opinion the current attacks against science ( and  
that is exactly what we have going on.) is much more dangerous because there are  
powerful monied interest who are either part of the delusional community or  
recognize the value to their interest that the delusional community 
represents.  These right wing theocrats have very deep pockets and ,  given the sad  
state of science education in the United States ,  are planting their anti  
science crab grass on fertile soil. 
 
 
Bob Zannelli 


>  Did anyone catch the NASA "spokesperson" appointed by the Bush
>  Administration who objected to the "Big Bang" theory since "he  personally
> favored
> intelligent Design." BTW this was the same  guy who lobbied to gag NASA
> scientists who
> expressed opinions  concerning global warming the  administration
> disapproved
>  of. Interestingly  this topic of Global  warming has split the  Evangelical
> community where the more conservative elements   insisting that denial of
> global
> warming was next to godliness.  I think  there may be interesting
> connections
> between the  ID crowd and Global warming  skeptics , at least in a
>  significant
> number of cases. Even if this is incorrect  at the  very least their
> strategy is
> identical
>  







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