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Re: [Phys-l] Premed Requirements Commentary

A third interpretation is that students are not good judges of what they learned. Richard Hake has cited some research which validates that conclusion.

One "problem" with "reformed" courses is that students learn process more than facts so they tend to be negative about what they learned, so a possible fourth interpretation is that they could not put their fingers on what they had learned. Of course the "problem" is the poor PR, not necessarily the learning.

John M. Clement
Houston, TX

... the interesting part was that for the most part the students who
thought it was important had not taken physics in college and those
who didn't think it was important had.

Wow, that *is* interesting.

I've been racking my brains, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
It seems open to multiple interpretations:

-- One flattering interpretation is that the "takers" had learned
useful skills "by osmosis"; they retained the skills but didn't
remember /where/ they learned them.

-- One unflattering interpretation is that the course didn't live
up to its billing. The non-takers responded on the basis of the
course /description/, while the takers responded on the basis of
the actual course.

We need more information before we can correctly interpret that
statement ... but it seems well worth looking into.