Re: [Phys-l] Interim Report on the Hake List Methodology

[Richard Hake <rrhake@earthlink.net>]

In his Phys-L post of 05 Aug 2006 07:43:12-0500 titled "Interim 
Report on the Hake List Methodology" the kind, diplomatic, and 
socially aware Brian Whatcott wrote [bracketed by lines "WWWWWW. . . 
":

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At 01:33 PM 8/4/2006, Richard, you wrote:

> If you reply to this long (10 kB) post
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> Doug Lederman (2006), in his cogent Inside Higher Ed article "A
> Near-Final Report?" writes [bracketed by lines "LLLLLLLLL. . . ."; my
> inserts at ". . . [.....] . . .":

> LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
> The Secretary of Education's Commission on the Future of Higher
> Education . . . .[see listing of reports at IHE (2006)]. . . released
> the next iteration of its report Thursday. . . [COFHE (2006] . . . .
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> The new draft finds the commission treading largely the same path
> that it started on with the second draft
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reading this present note, I see that the wood goes missing within 
the first paragraph on account of the trees.
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The "I am the wise counselor, follow my instructions carefully on 
reading my note" tone?    If I were not the kind, diplomatic, 
socially aware contributor that I am, I would say: PRETENTIOUS, 
OVERBLOWN, BORING. [My CAPS.[
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In response Jack Uretsky, world champion reply-button pusher, hit his 
reply button to send this one-liner:

"Nicely understated, Brian,"

PLUS ALL of Whatcott's previously archived post.

It's because of the finger-jerk reply-button-pushing Uretsky's of the 
internet, that I sometimes preface my posts with a plea, so 
aggravating to Whatcott:

"You reply to this long (xx kB) post please don't hit the reply 
button unless you prune the copy of this post that may appear in your 
reply down to a few relevant lines, otherwise the entire already 
archived post may be needlessly resent to subscribers."

Of course, that plea generally goes unheeded as subscribers' hard 
drives and discussion-list archives become littered with already 
archived posts. DOES URETSKY OWN STOCK IN HARD-DRIVE FACTORIES?

In any case, I could be wrong, but I think Whatcott and Uretsky may 
be hinting that they do not appreciate my posts. For such people I 
once posted directions on "How To Avoid Seeing Posts By Irritating 
People" [Hake (2005)].

The method involves monitoring posts on the archives, while receiving 
NO MAIL from the list. For lists running on LISTSERV software, one 
can accomplish this by subscribing in the NOMAIL option. For Phys-L, 
I think an equivalent option is available at 
<https://carnot.physics.buffalo.edu/mailman/listinfo/phys-l>. [Please 
correct me if I'm wrong.].

BTW, for those masochists who enjoy PRETENTIOUS, OVERBLOWN, and 
BORING posts, my latest is "Do Underprepared College Students Benefit 
from Engagement?" [Hake (2006)].


Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
24245 Hatteras Street, Woodland Hills, CA 91367
<rrhake@earthlink.net>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~sdi>

"To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also 
be well mannered."
     Voltaire


REFERENCES
Hake, R.R. 2005 "How To Avoid Seeing Posts By Irritating People," 
AERA-C post of 4 Aug 2005 11:36:36-0700; online at
<http://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0508A&L=AERA-C&P=R602&I=-3&X=4DE0B649F88B6B7B3E&Y=rrhake%40earthlink.net>, 
or more compactly at <http://tinyurl.com/mgvtx>, courtesy 
<http://tinyurl.com/create.php>.

Hake, R.R. 2006. "Do Underprepared College Students Benefit from 
Engagement?" online at 
<http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0608&L=pod&F=&S=&P=2131>. 
Post of 5 August to AERA-A, AERA-B, AERA-C, AERA-D, AERA-J, AERA-K, 
AERA-L, ASSESS, Biopi-L, Biolab (rejected), Chemed-L, EvalTalk, 
FYA-L, ITFORUM, IFETS, PhysLrnR, POD, PsychTeacher (rejected), RUME, 
TeachingEdPsych, TIPS, & STLHE-L.