[Phys-L] Re: Partners in Innovation: Teaching Assistants in College Courses

[Vern Lindberg <vwlsps@RIT.EDU>]

Jack,

I am puzzled and offended by your response. I thought by giving a web
location to Felder's papers I was adding information to this thread.
Apparently you did not find this responsive enough. Did you want me to
read all the papers and provide summaries of them? Why should I do this
work for you? I am not your graduate student!  Please consider the tone
and content of your response before sending it.

Vern

On Nov 25, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Jack Uretsky wrote:

> I would have thought that a responsive answer to my question would have
> been, "Yes, as follows:
>         The results suggest that active and cooperative learning
> methods
> facilitate both learning and a variety of interpersonal and thinking
> skills, and that while these methods may initially provoke student
> resistance, the resistance can be overcome if the methods are
> implemented
> with care."
>                                 Regards,
>                                         Jack
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Vern Lindberg wrote:
>
> > Many of Felder's papers are at
> > <http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/Papers/Education_Papers-
> > Chronological.html>
> >
> > Vern Lindberg
> > RIT
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Jack Uretsky wrote:
> >
> > > Does he provide a summary of his conclusions?
> > >                                 Regards,
> > >                                         Jack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Robert Beichner wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 23, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Rick Tarara wrote:
> > > > >  Is there now any longitudinal data that shows how students react
> > > > > when course after course is done in interactive mode?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard Felder did a study of just the sort you are talking about
> > > > (except this was done in a five semester Chemical Engineering
> > > > sequence rather than Physics).
> > > >
> > > > Hope this is helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Beichner
> > > > NCSU Physics
> > > >
> > > > R.M. Felder, "A Longitudinal Study of Engineering Student
> > > > Performance
> > > > and Retention. IV. Instructional Methods and Student Responses to
> > > > Them," J. Engr. Education, 84(4), 361-367 (1995). Instructional
> > > > methods designed to reach the full spectrum of learning styles, as
> > > > applied in an ongoing longitudinal study of engineering students.
> > > > R.M. Felder, G.N. Felder, and E.J. Dietz, "A Longitudinal Study of
> > > > Engineering Student Performance and Retention. V. Comparisons with
> > > > Traditionally-Taught Students" J. Engr. Education, 87(4), 469-480
> > > > (1998). Performance and attitude differences between students taught
> > > > with an active/cooperative learning model and students taught with a
> > > > traditional instructor-centered model.
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Trust me.  I have a lot of experience at this."
> > >                 General Custer's unremembered message to his men,
> > >                 just before leading them into the Little Big Horn
> > > Valley
>
> --
> "Trust me.  I have a lot of experience at this."
>                 General Custer's unremembered message to his men,
>                 just before leading them into the Little Big Horn
> Valley
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