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Re: photons, restmass, relmass



On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, John Denker wrote:

At 05:29 PM 2/17/00 -0600, Cliff Parker asked a bunch of questions about
the mass and momentum of photons.

I found a nicely-written article on the subject at
http://ftp.corepower.com/pub/relfaq/physics/light_mass.html

Just to underline one of the points it makes: Einstein wrote
E = m c^2 (1)
where m is what we nowadays call the "relativistic mass" which is a concept
that is best _avoided_. To be explicit:
E = relmass c^2 (2)
or equivalently
E^2 = relmass^2 c^4 (3)

Nowadays, we write
E^2 - p^2 c^2 = m^2 c^4 (4)
where nowadays m is the rest mass and p is the ordinary 3-vector
momentum. To be explicit,
E^2 - p^2 c^2 = restmass^2 c^4 (5)
which is distinctly different from equation (3).

Just to be clear, most of us that have either dabbled or worked in nuclear
theory have for years written
E^2 - P^2 = m^2
Notice the abcence of the c^2 throughout the equation. This is because we
usually set c=h-bar=1 in all math. When we are expecting a result in
units of length, it may instead come out in units of 1/Mev. This is no
problem, we simple multiply by ONE in the special form
1 = 197.32858.... MeV-fm
It may seem that this "rationalized system" is somewhat irrational; but I
can assure you that is facilitates calculation greatly. Additionally, it
reinforces the concept that energy, momentum, and mass are really all
kindred measures of the current value of the (E,P) 4-vector.


We note in passing that the rest mass is the invariant length of the (E,p)
four-vector.


Absolutely correct. The invariance of this 4-vector's length is pivotal
to many calculation: i.e.. the E(threshold) for pair production and others

Because of the change in convention (m now conventionally stands for
restmass, not relmass) the most famous formula of 20th century physics (E =
m c^2) is no longer something we would conventionally write. Given changes
like that, it's a miracle that we can communicate with each other.

Photons always have relmass. Relmass is just energy measured in funny
units. In contrast, photons in free space have zero rest mass.

For most of us, the MeV is a very acceptable unit for mass. Still, it may
seem straqnge to some to also have momentum measured in MeV. But with
only a short doing these sorts of calculations, all of this will seem very
"NATURAL" and again it greatly reduces the labor of the computation. it
has been 20 years since I regularly did computations in this area and yet
I always fall back into this mode anytime I need to do a problem for
students. I do the problem "the regular way" with MKS units for them (and
then can check it for correctness in my head using the rationalized
system).

========== >>
Photons in a box, or in a waveguide, do contribute to the rest mass of the
system. In fact, as I have said before, the waveguide equation is an
excellent way to see the connection between the dynamics of massive
particles and massless particles. The cutoff frequency corresponds to the
rest mass.


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