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Re: inertial forces (definition)



Isaac himself would not have made the distinction between inertial and
gravitational mass. This became most clear when Coulomb's law showed
that, by analogy, Newtonian gravitation involved a "gravitational charge",
conceptually distinct from the inertial mass in F=ma.

However, by Newtonian physics we usually mean the consistent development
of Isaac's beginnings by those who developed and extended his ideas
without contradiction. Even our wording of Isaac's 3 laws clarifies and
modernizes his statements.

Bob

Bob Sciamanda (W3NLV)
Physics, Edinboro Univ of PA (em)
trebor@velocity.net
http://www.velocity.net/~trebor

----- Original Message -----
From: Leigh Palmer <palmer@SFU.CA>
To: <PHYS-L@lists.nau.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: inertial forces (definition)


3) Newtonian viewpoint says, gravity is not one of these types of
forces
since the gravitational is proportional to the gravitational mass of
the
object.

Was that Newton's viewpoint? Did he distinguish inertial and
gravitational mass? He was aware that there is something funny
about the gravitational force which seemed to act at a distance.
Today we understand that Newton's third law doesn't hold for
gravitational forces. (There is no body on which you exert a
force which is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to
the force of gravity which acts on you, even on a nonspinning
planet.) One must inject the intermediary of a field (which is
not a body) to save a semblance the appearances. Newton coined
the word "centrifugal" to describe a similar force. I don't
believe he ever called it an inertial force.

I would appreciate a citation to answer my question. I believe
I was taught that Newton meant the same kind of mass that he
spoke of in his dynamics when he formulated his law of gravity.
The realization that there might be a problem came later, did
it not? It seems we should not be designating things that are
not Newtonian as Newtonian.

Leigh