Re: bad-faith argumentation (was *earth* vs. *wing*)

[William Beaty <billb@ESKIMO.COM>]

On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, John Denker wrote:

> At 02:20 AM 8/22/99 -0700, William Beaty wrote:
> > I think the author is referring to John Denker's long-held assertion that
> > airplanes fly because there is a force between the wings and the earth's
> > surface.  That's what this whole debate is really about.  (Although I
> > haven't heard what Mr. Denker's explanation of high-level flight has
> > become currently, so perhaps he has changed his position.)
>
> This looks like bad-faith argumentation to me.
>
> Mr. Beaty *knows* that I do not assert and have never asserted a *direct*
> force between the earth and the wings.


I do know this.  The force obviously must be an "indirect" force-pair
mediated by the air.  However, whether direct or indirect, either it's a
force-pair, or it's not a Newtonian force.

I honestly thought that you assert that there is an (indirect)  force-pair
between the wings and the surface of the earth.

Am I mistaken?  If so, then please explain to me, what does the (indirect)
force pair lie between, if not between the wings and the earth?



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