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Re: falling magnet



If you wish to demonstrate eddy-current braking from a solenoid style
arrangement, I suggest you will need to be MUCH bolder with your use of
conductors.
I would try heavy weight ground conductor, which can be obtained in
diameters around 1/5 inch. Then for comparison, try copper tape of
1/2 or 1 inch width. Wind both of these as solenoids then measure
carefully.

Brian


At 15:20 10/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
About a week ago Ludwik wrote:
I suspect that the "magnetic braking" effect of eddy currents must play
a role in the case of the magnet falling near the copper winding. The
effect may be small but not negligible.

Leigh expressed a disagreement, a solenoid is not going to behave like a
tube which is often used to demonstrate terminal velocity. I finally
conduct a simple experiment to clarify the issue. And was not able to
observe any significant breaking.

Here are some details:

1) A neodymium magnet (mass=2.6 grams, diameter=9.5 mm, length=5 mm.)
2) A glass tube (length=64 cm, inner diameter=11.5 mm, outer diam=13.6 mm)
3) One layer of isolated copper wire (from a transformer, diam=0.6 mm)
over the length of 26 cm (starting 11.5 cm from lower end of the tube).

The time of fall (estimated) was less than 0.5 s in all three cases:
a) glass tube alone
b) tube with the open coil
c) tube with the shortened coil

Back to Herb's problem. I will be happy to hook the coil to a scope and
record the shape of volts-versus-time curve. But I will do this only if
somebody responds to the challenge presented by Herb. Post the result
of your calculations (a table with two rows of numbers, for seconds and
volts) and I will post the experimental data.

The magnet was released from rest and traveled 26.5 cm before leveling
with the upper end of the coil. Wires are closly wound; the insulation
is negligibly thin.
Ludwik Kowalski
P.S.
I have no doubt that local eddy curls are induced (by a passing magnet)
in each section of a long solenoid. The diameters of these local loops
must be smaller than the diameter of the wire. But the experiment shows
that the effect of eddies is not significant in this situation.


brian whatcott <inet@intellisys.net>
Altus OK