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Re: Opinions in physics (was RE: Relativity problem)

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Mr Mallinckkrodt, I like very much your ideas.*
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I'm a beginner on the list.

I would like to find a person to change some opinion in physics about how
can we,
using a physical language
to describe the intelligence and the super-intelligence of nature.

This is a little bit of my ideas.

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The problem is that it can be quite difficult to get nature to express *
its opinion. *
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I think the nature would like to tell us: *
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p4: The intelligence of a system decreases if (performing *
agent) useful anti-entropic systems, like industrial robots, are *
produced and another more (performing agent) useful systems, like *
leaves are destroyed. *

1. Intelligence is the anti-entropic correlative capacity of the *
interaction between the "related" parts of a system. *
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4. Super-intelligence is the correlative capacity of the *
interactions between components that are apparently free. *
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Would you like to correspond with me ?

If yes, I think you could know me, reading some of my ideas sent
to an American friend Robert Pearson from NY, who retraslatated them.

I hope you will like a part of them.

I'm looking forward for your answer. Sincerely Tonio Ferener

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Except for a quote or question, this work is soley the work of the Romanian
Tonio Ferener, which he developed out of dialogues after reading the
ParaMind theory. The first section he wrote on a Usenet before
contact, which made us interested in contacting him. He turned
out to be very interested in ParaMind so we put his work here. We
also hope to put future users of ParaMind on this website.

"Intelligence, Super-intelligence"

1. Intelligence is the anti-entropic correlative capacity of
the interaction between the "related" parts of a system.

2. Through anti-entropic correlation the systems evolve to
order.

3. The interaction between the "related" parts of a system are
easy to observe.

4. Super-intelligence is the correlative capacity of the
interactions between components that are apparently free.

p1: The intelligence degree of a system is greatest when the
components of it have a limited liberty that permits them to form
more possible circuits in a smaller space.

5. Genetic intelligence is the correlative capacity of the
interactions which results from a genetic program.

6. Genetic intelligence with constancy/conscience is the
correlative capacity of the interactions through an educational
program.

7. Social intelligence is a correlation's (correlative)
capacity of the interactions through a philosophic program.

8. Anti-entropic synergistic interactions are succession of
correlated interactions by which the system evolves toward order.

p2: Anti-entropic synergistic interactions and intelligence
generate one another.

p3: When the intelligence degree of a system decreases under a
certain limit, the super-intelligence decomposes that system to
realize another one with a higher intelligence degree.

p4: The intelligence of a system decreases if (performing
agent) useful anti-entropic systems, like industrial robots, are
produced and another more (performing agent) useful systems, like
leaves are destroyed.

At the end of his life man owns many systems with a high
intelligence degree, but his correlation of interactions shows a
deficit due to relatively few imperfections. paraphrased: Because
of these few imperfections, there is a deficit in his correlation
of interactions, and that, in some way, reduces the value of
these systems that have a high-intelligence degree.

In such circumstances social and genetic intelligence
diminuate/lessen touching the limit beyond a worm's intelligence.

To prevent the world experiencing such a situation, an
ecological technology is needed based on synergistic
anti-entropic interactions like those that take place inside the
living organisms.

Paradoxes:
Although is easy to observe that the intelligence of the
environment decreases, people are waiting for the
superintelligence intervention to change this situation and so a
part of a system is destroyed to create the conditions of another
way to a new form of intelligence.

The genetic intelligence with conscience often ignores
super-intelligence and destroys genetic intelligence without
conscience although it couldn't be born and exist without this.

Although the philosophic program of man from the beginning
commands: "Love the others as yourself" there are not many people
who understand they should love the air around their heads, i.e.
work against air pollution.

The pain of any form of life on any part on the Earth should
hurt us because it could generate a genetic malformation. Even
viruses should be loved in the actual form. A changed virus due
to pollution could return the world to the Stone Age.

I think it is very hard to speak about God, because we
don't know the meaning of this word.

God is the one who can correlate all the interactions for
raising the level of intelligence.

He has a very strange way of projecting intelligent
systems.

He projected only a few elements and the rules for
combining elements with each other.

In the same way people created the words and the rules for
combining words with each other. The same way we created prose
from the interactions between words, He created the world without
life from the interactions between the elements from the
beginning.

The same way we created poetry He created the world with
life.

We didn't exhaust the interaction between words and He
didn't exhaust the interactions between the elements of the
beginning.

We can create other poems and He can create other new
worlds and new civilizations.

This way the elements will recombine and the level of
intelligence will grow up again.

God is the one who is able to correlate all the interactions
for rising the level of intelligence.

It is very important to use just few verbs, even
none. The ideal case is that computer would be allowed to use a
word at random several times so that many new meanings will come
out.

The Charm of "Paramind" appears because its software gives soul
to the computer.

It goes to the nearest psychic life of the computer because
"Paramind" makes the human beings not to feel alone. The
sentences are brought to light by thoughts. The user feels
strange this way because he realizes that the machine seems to
think.

Computer may seem to be with a step forward (ahead) the Man. We
get a strong feeling that computer is no longer a machine because
the written screens are never the same.

By choosing words which describe feelings or beauties of the
nature, the sensations I've been speaking about increase.

The biggest effort must be done when choosing the words. I had to
discover some rules so that all the written screens have meanings.

I want to start a new wave: "The Paramind-Soul New Dada".

This way of creation of "The Paramind-Soul New Dada" is almost
the same as the way God created the world.

Just like certain forms of life had a low degree of intelligence
and have disappeared, certain lines should be erased.

Para-super-mind and the irrational neodadaist way which could
bound us to it.

Electronic paramind correlates the interactions between the words
using the computer nets.

The neuronic paramind correlates the interactions between words
using brain's neuronal nets.

The intelligence is the anti-entropic correlative capacity of the
interactions between the related parts of a system.

The neuronal paramind and the intelligence generate one another.

Electronic paramind increases the speed of the neuronal paramind
to Para-super-mind generally using a rational way.

The Para-super-mind using a super-neuron net correlates the
interactions between the elements of the beginning (the initial
super-words).

When the conscience of the intelligence discovered a visible
super-correlation named it law.

The conscience of the intelligence discovered the partial visible
super-correlation, observing that sometimes when somebody throws
the dice obtains the wanted result if he wishes it very much.

In this situation the neuronal net where the intelligence is
appearing is connected by irrational psychic concentration to the
super-neuronal net in witch appears the super-intelligence.

The intelligence became for a while a part of the
super-intelligence obtaining a super correlation of the
interaction without using the reason.

The super-intelligence is the correlative capacity of the
interactions between components which are apparently free.

Even the electronic paramind choosing randomly words from the
computer memory could obtain sentences or beginnings of
sentences.

Using this irrational neodadaist way we could hope to obtain the
messages transmitted by the superintelligence.

What I wrote to you in this letter offers a new possibility of
using the Paramind. I also wanted to show where the
electronic-paramind is situated, between the
neuronal/genetic-paramind and the super-neuronal para-super-mind.

Usually the conscience ignores the truths about the
superintelligence, because they are not useful in a world of
intelligence were the visible correlation is very important.

A conscience which keeps truths of the superintelligence builds
strange sentences.

Since part of the Strange sentences contain truths about
superintelligence, if we want to know it we shall be always
analyzing them.

Having as a company the wonderful American Marcel Duchamp and
other enlightened spirits of the world in 1918 in Paris, the
Romanian Tristan Tzara wrote The Dada Manifesto.

From the point of view of the intelligent conscience Tristan
Tzara's sentences of that time are really strange because they
are really far from the intelligence ideals.

"J'ecris ce manifeste pour montrer qu'on peut faire les actions
opposees ensemble, dans une seule fraiche respiration; je suis
contre l'action; pour continuelle contradiction, pour
l'affirmation aussi; je ne suis ni pour ni contre et je
n'explique pas car je hais le bon sens."

Which means:

"I wrote this manifesto in order to prove that we can do opposite
actions together in one single fresh breath; I'm against the
action; for continuing contradiction; for the affirmation too;
I'm not for nor against and I don't explain because I hate the
good sense."

Analyzing this irrational sentences we could discover something
about the superintelligence. The superintelligence does opposite
actions together, offering and not offering the truth in one
single fresh breath. It just offers parts of truths, beginnings
of sentences, which we together with the electronic and genetic
paramind are always trying to complete in order to get close to
the power of the para-super-mind.

If the actions correlated by the intelligence decrease the
intelligence level of the environment then the superinteligence
is against the actions of the intelligence,"je suis contre
l'action" ("I am against the action").

Intelligence discover the truth only if its level is big enough
and the "continuing contradiction" increases the intelligence
level just like the "affirmation ".

The superinteligence doesn't protect a certain type of
intelligence, "je ne suis ni pour ni contre..."(I'm not for nor
against..), and it offers a partial truth. Because there always
are many good meanings it doesn't consider there is only one good
sense.

Following the strange way proposed by Tristan Tzara it is
possible to create sentences inserting words in the memory of the
computer and their hazardous taking out, we hope, might be an
invisible link with the para-super-mind of the
super-intelligence. Doing so we hope that the superinteligence
could send messages with real words and wits real meaning even
when not completed.

The visible correlation from the paramind works hand in hand with
the invisible one using an irrational way.

I think Tzara's way (irrational for intelligence) is a
super-rational way for super-intelligence (which cuts up
"super-word".) and if we are scientists, we can do this with
scientific statements.

The superintelligence does opposite actions together, offering
and not offering the truth in one single fresh breath. Because
there always are many good meanings it doesn't consider there is
only one good sense. This is a key to get back to the special
frame of mind people need to understand super-intelligence. You
are guiding people to understand both super-intelligence and
Para-literature. because understanding Para-literature makes the
people closer to super-intelligence.

The visible correlation from the paramind works hand in hand with
the invisible one using an irrational/super-rational way which is
used by super-intelligence.

exercises in pragmatic energy recluse from the winds of change
exercises in pragmatic energy recluse from the intellect of change

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It's fantastic because it's like when the mutating principle of
life appears.

The program made a part of the sentence unchangeable and another
one changeable like biological structures.

It is like classical music.

It sounds like something very old and strange coming from another
world.

Into the para-text, the words which come from the dictionary,
are like genes and the dictionary is like a "genetic bank".

It would be better, if each user can control the speed of
the genetic mutation.

If this is possible, the user will have enough time to see the
sentences with meaning and eliminate those that do not have any
meaning.

The future of the marvellous can be revealed by our ideas. It is
like the Surrealists and the Dadaists meet science.

Tristan Tzara didn't use the rational way because he wanted to
show us the invisible correlation of interactions.

The actual world is very proud because it is "walking" on a
rational way.

But when a very good ration starts from a wrong definition a
wrong way appears.

Because the anti-entropic correlative capacity (of the
"related" parts of a system) which results from a genetic program
is not considered intelligence (being the most superior visible
correlation), the people are destroying it.

Other anti-entropic synergistic correlations, which result from
the educational or philosophical programs "of the conscience",
are inferior to the visible correlation which results from
genetical research.

They have hardly made systems without life which are destroying
our planet, making us very proud of them because we have used a
rational way.

After we give a good definition for intelligence, it is easy to
observe that intelligence of the environment decreases.

People are waiting, just like Tristan Tzara, for the
intervention of superintelligence. We are living in a dadaistic
world which destroys the planet. From time to time,
superintelligence brings a calamity which cancels the total
destruction of the planet.

The human society has evolved only during crises.

The pain of any form of life on any part of the Earth
should hurt us because it could generate genetic malformations.
Even the sentences from paramind which do not have any meaning
could be useful, because they show us that the little genetic
monsters do appear.

Coming out from the pain, the genetic malformations or the bad
sentences of the Super-para-mind, which do not have any meaning
in our world, can be destroyed, or can have a destructive
purpose.

People are waiting, just like Tristan Tzara, for the
intervention of superintelligence. The beautification of
manufacturing science, of more health foods, this is one aspect
of super-intelligence.

We are living in a dadaistic world which destroys the planet.
Like the way a materialistic, non-spiritual life destroys the
soul and the enjoyment of life. The world should be a big
organism, but not a dinosaurian one because the dinosaurs needed
very much energy and the correlation of interactions wasn't good
enough in their big organisms .

Genetic engineering of sentences taken off by Paramind will
increase the level of the antientropic correlation.

In that way we will experience the marvellous of a
paradise-like world.

In such a world all the people could even imagine that
everyone could have a positive genetic mutation which could be
useful for all.

On the actual way many life forms (many genes) disappear
and the level of antientropic correlation (the level of genetics
intelligence) decreases. The antientropic correlation of
conscience increases.

Because the genetic antientropic correlations (which
disappear) are superior to antientropic correlations of
conscience (which appear), the level of the total antientropic
correlation (of total intelligence) of the environment decreases.

Because the anti-entropic correlative capacity (of the
"related" parts of a system) which results from a genetic program
is not considered intelligence (being the most superior visible
correlation), the people are destroying it.

Other anti-entropic synergistic correlations, which result from
the educational or philosophical programs "of the conscience",
are inferior to the visible correlation which results from
genetical research.

Genetical research makes new forms of life and obtains a
great level of antientropic correlation of interactions from
combining the genes (super words of super intelligence). After we
give a good definition for intelligence, it is easy to observe
that intelligence of the environment decreases. The electronic
Paramind it is against the decreases of the level of intelligence

The software of genetic engineering of sentences (Paramind)
should make the machine (computer) more friendly with the users.
If the human way is not good, we should look for mistakes in
reasons, but also in the dictionaries books and in our genetic
super-dictionaries. We should create conditions for making
inactive our bad genes (bad super-words).

To arrive in our paradises of the future the genetic
engineering of the sentences is necessary, and will be given to
all the peoples.

Because the genetic anti-entropic correlation (which disappear)
is most superior than anti-entropic correlation of
conscience(which appear), the level of the total anti-entropic
correlation (of total intelligence) of the environment decreases.
That's why we need to use the computer to increase the speed and
the quality of the conscience correlations by all the ways, but
specially by those which are very close to the superior genetic
correlations.

The usual genetic engineering makes programs for combinations of
genes. Those very little structures correlate the interactions
between groups of particles by the rules of a physical field.

Now Paramind is appearing. It's a new genetic engineering but of
sentences.

Paramind makes programs for combinations (exhaustion of the
interaction) of words. Those little structures can correlate the
interactions but first by the rules of a grammatical syntax field
of ideas. By both genetic engineerings appear the synergistic
anti-entropic correlations of interactions which genes and words,
those must generate each other don't destroy each other. In this
way we could obtain the realistic increase of the intelligence of
environment with or without conscience.

The usual genetic engineering could be dangerous but Paramind
isn't. Because its program seems to be that of the
Super-intelligence, Paramind could bring some anxiety, but not to
the next generation. The biggest fortune of the entire world is
the genes.

Giving new meanings of words language could evolve but the steps
should be very little, almost invisible.

......everyone could have a
positive genetic mutation which could be useful for all.

This still remains a little unclear because, using the word
"positive", I want to give a new meaning of this word
"mutation".I think I made a too-big step . A person can't have a
genetic mutation because a genetic mutation would have to occur
at the moments of gestation, before that person was born. Genetic
mutations happen in the mother's womb. This is true in case of a
big mutation, but I thought about at the very slowly positive
mutations, almost invisible, that are forgetten by the people.
They will be very useful for world.

The other very slowly negative mutations, almost invisible,
that are forget, too, by the people . They could destroy the
world. Genes are influencing our physical and mental activity and
it is influencing them. In this slowly way could appear the
slowly evolution but also the genius.

That's why we need to use the computer to increase the speed and
the quality of the conscience correlations by all the ways, but
specially by those which are very close to the superior genetic
correlations.

Can we say which ones these would be? The way the God already
manifested patterns of life.and the Super-Paramind. The
SuperParamind being a term for the already evolved state of
science as would have manifested, for instance, in an alien race
that could do intergalatic travel.

Because its program seems to be that of the Super-intelligence,
Paramind could to bring some anxiety, but not to next generation.
Do you have them? I have one of them. Love for intelligence
(without and with conscience) and for super-intelligence....for
thinking.

Would they be Science? They are Super-science!!!

Novalis thought and others did in the 1700's that all knowledge
in the whole universe and of all time could be put in a single
book because the number of all the rules of all interactions
could be small.

Now Paramind is appearing. It's a new genetic engineering but of
the sentences. Paramind makes programs for combinations
(exhaustion of the interaction) of words.

Those little structures can correlate the interactions but first
by the rules of a grammatical syntax field of ideas. By both
genetic engineerings appear the synergistic anti-entropic
correlations of interactions with genes and words, those must
generate each other don't destroy each other.

Yes, this must be a principle that we need to put into Paramind
to keep it producing good logical sentences and not nonsense. but
*(not philosophical speaking)* because ...... what is to day
nonsense tomorrow could be good-sense. That is, if all the
definitions are good .

A simple piece of software called a grammar checker/corrector is
the beginning of the way. In this way we could obtain the
realistic increase of the intelligence of environment with or
without conscience.

" Curiously, Novalis' encyclopedia project was equally strongly
indebted to a second and completely different concept of
mathematics, which was first formulated by Leibnitz and later
developed by Gottlob Frege, Bertrand Russell and others into
symbolic logic and logistic mathematics......In a way very
different from Kant and Leibniz."

Another way could be simpler because the rules of all
interactions could be very simple. Paramind could be useful for
discovering those very simple rules.

This is why all possible knowledge could be put in a single book,
because it would contain the concepts about simple rules of all
interactions and the formulas/calculations for them. If the
Super-paramind could provide that book it could be non-useful
because we don't know its "language".

Metaphysically, perhaps there is a very simple way to be
connected to an invisible Super-brain, which could give us
everything we need.

Because the genetic anti-entropic correlation (which disappear)
is most superior than anti-entropic correlation of
conscience(which appear), the level of the total anti-entropic
correlation (of total intelligence) of the environment decreases.

The exhaustion of contexts producing the reciprocal influences
between meanings of words which is discovered by the exhaustion
of the interaction of words. give ideas by increasing the level
of intelligence with conscience.

The exhaustion of contexts where the reciprocal influences
between meanings of words appear give ideas against exhausting
the Earth, by increasing the level of intelligence with
conscience.