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Re: [Phys-l] Sample problems and derivations...



I suggest that the author of this e-mail is trying to teach a notion that he labels "scientific paper", and in doing so is engaging in very poor pedagogy. The teaching could be greatly improved, in my opinion, by some exxamples of what he considers to be acceptable scientific papers.
Regards,
Jack

"Trust me. I have a lot of experience at this."
General Custer's unremembered message to his men,
just before leading them into the Little Big Horn Valley




On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, brian whatcott wrote:

On 8/12/2010 4:21 PM, Jeff Loats wrote:
/snip/ In all of science you can never take any one
paper as solid evidence. You have to look for a preponderance of evidence
pointing in a given direction. Saying that the literature can say anything
makes it sound (to me) like you are disturbed by the messy details of the
trees of science and peer-review instead of looking at the forest and which
way it seems to be growing./snip/
Jeff


Let me propose a definition of what constitutes a scientific paper.
( a modest task well suited to my modest talents)

A scientific paper is a method of describing the means to replicate some
data, from which certain conclusions may have been drawn.
If there is insufficient material to allow replication, then this is not
a scientific but
quite likely a philosophical paper, or scientific journalism of one
kind or another.

If there is sufficient material to do so, and one is able to replicate
the results, then
the paper has passed its first and second stages of verification.
The third stage, of allowing one to endorse the conclusions, is the
most difficult step.
Because it is difficult, there are people who believe they can pass
directly to this stage,
omitting the prior verification. This is akin to asking, "Is this
result plausible?"
Prior experience may well render one's judgment credible - but the
effort then
becomes that of the judge facing opposing counsels, who know their
task is to
sway a jury not to establish facts.

Brian W
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