Re: [Phys-l] Prof. Hal Lewis resigns from APS

[Jack Uretsky <jlu@hep.anl.gov>]

Epithets do not improve understanding.
"Big government" is one of your colleagues or former colleagues sitting at 
a desk in the Department of Energy.
				Regards,
					Jack

"Trust me.  I have a lot of experience at this."
		General Custer's unremembered message to his men,
		just before leading them into the Little Big Horn Valley




On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, brian whatcott wrote:

>  I would very much like to hear some evaluation of the "Trillions of
> Dollars" that have completely turned the heads of the global climate
> change proponents.
>
> As far as I know, there are two major sources of research funding.
> Big government and Big Business.
>   Big Government seems very luke warm about  combating this effect.
> And Big (US) Business seems to be positively horrified by the thought:
> coal, oil, manufacturing.
>
> The Republicans seem to be accurately reflecting the interests of their
> sponsors: they are no less firm in saying No on this topic that on the
> many others that the elected congress has proposed.
> The Democrats in turn notice that jobs are at risk too. So just who is
> providing the trillions? The Chinese? Don't think so.
>
> Brian W
>
> On 10/11/2010 11:44 AM, A. John Mallinckrodt wrote:
> > ... as if there were no political--more precisely economic--interests informing the anti climate change forces, which are, interestingly enough, confined not merely to the right wing, but almost exclusively the right wing *in America* (see http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20101009_9888.php)
> >
> > Another item worth considering:
> >
> > The Montford Delusion
> > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-montford-delusion/
> >
> > John Mallinckrodt
> > Cal Poly Pomona
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu [phys-l-bounces@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu] On Behalf Of marx@phy.ilstu.edu [marx@phy.ilstu.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:39 AM
> > To: phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Prof. Hal Lewis resigns from APS
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > You are not correct in your assessment.  The APS showed no interest in examining the science in this
> > matter.  Their decision was/is solely based on politics, as were the so-called investigations into
> > ClimateGate.  Most, unbiased scientists that take the time to examine all of the documents and the
> > peer-reviewed scientific literature (not the IPCC reports) will arrive at the same conclusion as Professor
> > Lewis.  The problem is that most scientists have difficulty imagining that the so-called climate experts
> > have engaged in poor quality scientific work, even to the point of fabricating data.  There is an effort
> > underway to significantly alter the land-based measurements and data sets to get the desired results.
> > None of this is to deny that climate change is an ongoiong process, but rather a demand that higher
> > standards for data collection and analysis be used and that the entire process be transparent.  We
> > have a huge number of people engaged in quasi-scientific work to promote a political agenda, rather
> > than being engaged in truth-seeking.
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