Re: [Phys-l] Time Outside of Class

[Rick Tarara <rtarara@saintmarys.edu>]

B.C., like many 'leftys' is quite willing to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money 
wastefully to supposedly serve a few individuals.  The problem is that 
common sense might well tell us that there are more effective (and cheaper) 
ways to accomplish more for the very people they purport to serve.

Example (based on my wife's life-long career in special education having 
been in private facilities, public schools, and even a stint at 
administration).  The current trend of throwing all students into the same 
classrooms where teachers are often faced with a mixture of bright, normal, 
slow, learning-disabled, mentally handicapped, emotionally handicapped, and 
physically handicapped students all in the same classroom is producing 
chaos--both for the teachers and students.  Some of these students, 
especially the mentally and emotionally handicapped need much more 
individual attention than can be provided in these classrooms (even with 
aides and grossly misused special-ed teachers).  This is especially true of 
the mentally handicapped who need a completely different curriculum than the 
regular students if they are really to become marginally self-sufficient in 
the society.  Most will not, but still need much more in terms of daily 
living skills than to be sitting in a pre-algebra class.

The situation above, and the one Michael outlines are why, IMO, we can point 
to the lawyers and psychologists as having royally screwed up our society.! 
;-

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard Cleyet" <bernardcleyet@redshift.com>
To: "Forum for Physics Educators" <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
Cc: "Nancy Seese" <nancyseese@redshift.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Phys-l] Time Outside of Class


> Gate Keeper Seese has (in first grade) an Asperger's kid.  He has a full
> time teacher aide who works w/ him while Nancy teaches.  Because Nancy
> has more than the max. number of students, she also has a part time
> assistant.  Unfortunately, because the child is under 18 the parent can
> interfere and has.  The most recent kafuffle involved four people
> including the principal.  This all is an enormous expense, but being a
> lefty, I don't mind that some of my tax money is going to him and many
> others so unfortunate.  Because of this accommodation perhaps he and
> Michael's student may end up as productive citizens.  At the least they
> will be happier ones.
>
> bc, thinks in the long run it may be money well spent.
>
> Michael Edmiston wrote:
>
> > Concerning the parent who called the professor and wanted a make-up test 
> > for
> > the her son because he had an anxiety attack on exam day...
> >
> > (1) Don't do anything illegal... such as talking to the parent.  If a
> > student is 18 years old (or older) and a parent calls, unless the student
> > has signed a waiver giving you permission to talk to the parent, you have
> > broken FERPA law if you talk to the parent.  The few times a parent has
> > called me, and there is no waiver, I simply tell the parent it is illegal
> cut
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