[Phys-L] Re: Warning: Don't ask for Library loans on Political Topics

[Karl Trappe <trappe@PHYSICS.UTEXAS.EDU>]

Thank you for the references.

Sorry, bc, it is just ignorance on my part. I guess I am asking for the legal
definition of "war", within the US Constitution, etc.

I *think* I understand that the "Joint Resolution" is the basis of the action.
However, I am fuzzy about the distinction between a "Declaration of War" and the
"Authorization to Use of US Armed Forces".

It seems to me that we were involved every bit as deep in Korea and Vietnam, but
called them "police actions", *NOT* "Wars".

The term "WAR" is bantied about as the explanation for the legality of certain
actions, and I would prefer a more correct term if we are not "at war", as in
World War II, etc.  If we are actually "at war", then I need to think about that a
bit more.  For example, why are we using the National Guard, so heavily
(rhetorical this time) if *WAR* has been declared, "oficially"? Karl

Quoting Bernard Cleyet <bernardcleyet@REDSHIFT.COM>:

> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/
AR2005111101832.html
> http://www.shockingelk.com/text/joint_authorization/
>
> Was that a rhetorical ?, or you hadn't read the aboves, as reported in
> the media?
>
> bc, who thinks it was rhetorical.
>
> Karl Trappe wrote:
>
> > I missed the declaration...Could someone refresh my memory of the actual
> > congressional declaration of war? Somehow, I labored under the impression
> that the
> > Iraq invasion was another "police action", like Vietnam and Korea, etc.
> When
> > Congress agreed to pursue the 9/11 terrorists was that done via and actual
> > "Declaration of War" or was it via authorization of the President to "pursue
> the
> > terrorists"?  Obviously, Osama Bin Laden went to Afganistan, his family
> resides in
> > Saudi Arabia, and the Iraq connection has handily been shown to be invalid.
> So,
> > *what, exactly did Congress authorize*?
> >
> >
> >
> > > > Fox News has been pointing out that there's an exception for wartime.
> > > > Yeah, sure.  Take a look at
> > > >  http://cryptome.sabotage.org/50usc-ch36.htm#50USC1811
> > > > and decide for yourself whether it applies.
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