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But "population control" is? ;-)
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On 7/30/2004 at 4:26 PM Jack Uretsky wrote:
I hear a strident political message; I'm not sure whetherit's
Libertarian or Neo-Con. I am confident, however, that itstrikes me as
out of place for this list."population control" and
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Strickert, Rick wrote:
I appreciate the subsequent clarifications on
"social engineering", particularly since these phraseshave had pejorative
meanings associated with them. Such pejorative meaningshave arisen in
part because of Hollywood films or television showsfeaturing mass
propaganda schemes as part of the plot ("Wag the Dog"comes to mind).
Despite, or maybe because of, this, David Marx and RickTarara advocate
such "tried and true methods of propaganda."encourage (glorify)
However, people who intend to use the media "to
certain behavior" must realize the media will at the sametime profitably
encourage and glorify alternative behaviors includingexactly the opposite
behavior. Television stations run slick PSAs againstsmoking, drugs,
dropping out of school, promiscious sex, drinking, etc.,but by the time
most of us return from the mayor's office, they are backto the show's
characters reveling in the "coolness" of these sameactivities.
that provide
As for Mark Shapiro's promotion of "educational programs
accurate information" (which sounds more refined than"propaganda"), the
same problem will occur when different programs provideaccurate
information that conflicts with accurate informationprovided by other
educational groups. If some of the public side with onegroup, and others
side with another, who decides which education programwill be permitted
(or not)?social engineering
Rick Tarara gives us a clue when he suggested such
techniques as "oppressive parking fees" and "taxincentives" that just
skip education and go right to the use of force bygovernment
bureaucracies.his men,
Rick Strickert
Austin, TX
--
"Trust me. I have a lot of experience at this."
General Custer's unremembered message to
just before leading them into the LittleBig Horn Valley