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Re: even more 'what flows'



Richard W. Tarara wrote:

This thread won't die because Jim keeps bringing it up ;-)

OK, the transfer of energy at the boundary between Jim's A and B containers
IS due to intermolecular collisions, BUT viewed over time, the energy
content of A decreases and B increases. The 'common' name for this random
KE of molecules is Heat Energy, and the imagery of that energy 'flowing'
from A to B and therefore Heat flowing from A to B is not, IMO, harmful.

The Heat Energy nomenclature is useful for beginning students because it
helps in the process of identifying energy in complex systems. Consider a
block sliding along a rough surface. Sure you can say that the ordered KE
of the block molecules becomes random KE of the block and surface molecules
by a series of interactions between molecules, but when I get to this
problem, I simply have the students rub their hands together. Where does
the energy go--they answer as one--HEAT. OK, later on, those who go on

I certainally wouldn't call this HEAT. The hands got warm because of
mechanical work being done as they were rubbed together. The temperature of
the hands increased indicating an increase in internal energy.

If a bunsen burner is on the demo table you can carefully hold your hand
above the flame or at the side to demonstrate the transfer of energy as heat.
Zemansky says "Heat is energy in transit. It flows from one point to
another." (Heat and Thermodynamics) Sears says that "To distinguish energy in
any form, including that flowing across the boundary of a system by
conduction or radiation, from work, we shall speak of it as 'a flow of heat,'
and represent the energy by the symbol Q." (Thermodynamics) Quoting Fermi
from his book <Thermodynamics>: "Q can be interpreted physically as the
amount of energy that is received by the system in forms other than work." I
could quote from a number of other authors on my shelves, but they all say
about the same about heat. I personally like Zemansky's "heat is energy in
transit." I then point out that conduction, convection and radaiation are the
mechanisms of transit. Of course, there are demonstrations for beginning
classes of each of these.

One thing to remind students is that once the energy has been received by the
system, we can't tell if it was Q or W that contributed to the increase in
internal energy U.


Roger
need a more sophisticated understanding of all this, BUT those students
SHOULD be able to make that jump without too much confusion.

BTW: Jim, what do you call the quantity calculated by kA(delta)T/d in
conduction? Many of us call this the heat flow across a boundary.

This crusade will certainly go the same way as the Bernoulli and
centripetal/centrifugal wars--to be resurrected every 6 months without ever
any resolution.

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