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From: Phys-l [mailto:phys-l-bounces@www.phys-l.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Mungan
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:32 PM
To: PHYS-L
Subject: Re: [Phys-L] phase change
1. Do the particles in the gas and in the solid have the same (a) averagekinetic energy?
unless you're reasonably close to the high-T limit where the equipartition
Classically, yes, by the equipartition theorem. Quantum mechanically, no,
theorem applies. At lower temperatures there's an exponential suppression
of vibrational modes with hf >~ kT.
I mean for gas and solid coexisting at the sublimation point and I mean for a
real material. You may pick any real material you like.
(b) average total energy?negative, compared to the gas.
Absolutely not. The average potential energy per particle in the solid is
So equipartition doesn’t apply?
To be more fair, are there two kinds of PE: vibrational PE (as used in the
Dulong-Petit model for instance) and binding PE (which is what I assume
you’re referring to)?
Carl, I still get the impression that you're looking for a purely mechanical(rather than thermodynamic, or statistical, or kinetic) explanation here. Is
that a fair statement?
I’m not sure I know what you mean. I’ll accept any thoughts or ideas that
would fly in an introductory majors physics class. This is the thermo part of
their first course. So anything you want to say at that level, I’m happy to go
with.
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