Re: [Phys-L] Mesmerizing

[brian whatcott <betwys1@sbcglobal.net>]

It is true that a few papers have contradicted the early work: using 
[non-]synchrony of cohabiting lesbians: [non-]synchrony of Israeli 
athletes for example, but I offer you a review from an early pioneer, 
who did NOT rely on anecdotes about male scientists' spouses aggregated 
to a published paper (!!):  that of Martha McClintock  (1998)

<http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10532528.1998.10559927#preview>


Brian Whatcott     Altus OK

On 9/16/2013 11:59 AM, curtis osterhoudt wrote:
> I thought that Ze'ev did make a good point with the menstrual 
> synchrony example: It apparently doesn't happen in humans, or at least 
> the evidence for it is highly in doubt.
>
>
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> *From:* brian whatcott <betwys1@sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* phys-l@phys-l.org
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 8:07 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Phys-L] Mesmerizing
>
> If this is too far from Ze'ev's comfort zone, there is an everyday
> example of coupling
>   resonant circuits by way of very small energy increments, applied
> cyclically. It's called radio for short, these days.
> Or if he insists on narrowing the discussion to mechanical coupling,
> there is the ever-popular instance of
> foot-soldiers marching in-step across a bridge (though here, the bridge
> resonances would be expected to
> occupy lower frequencies.)
>
> Brian Whatcott    Altus OK
>
> On 9/15/2013 8:31 PM, Ze'ev Wurman wrote:
> > Oh yeah ... should we go to the history of hysteria too?
> >
> > This is phys-l ... at least I thought so :-)
> >
> > On 9/15/2013 5:17 PM, brian whatcott wrote:
> >> Ze'ev,
> >>
> >> my comment carefully did not limit itself to mechanically coupled
> >> systems.
> >>  You will recall the experimental studies of female student menstrual
> >> cycle coupling, for example.
> >>
> >> Brian Whatcott    Altus OK
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/15/2013 5:37 PM, Bernard Cleyet wrote:
> >>> On 2013, Sep 15, , at 11:04, Ze'ev Wurman <zeev@ieee.org 
> <mailto:zeev@ieee.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 9/15/2013 8:00 AM, brian whatcott wrote:
> >>>>> Actually, it is found that very small amounts of energy applied
> >>>>> cyclically, will eventually synchronize devices which share a
> >>>>> resonant frequency. Applies to electronic devices too, despite
> >>>>> Z'ev's misgivings.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Perhaps a more careful reading would have helped you. All I wrote
> >>>> is that "Much harder to achieve with electronic metronomes." Any
> >>>> coupled systems will affect each other, but it is harder to get
> >>>> mechanical coupling affect electronic gizmos unless they were
> >>>> designed for it (e.g., mechanically coupled tuning capacitor/coil).
> >>>> Read before jumping.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>> Unavoidably easy w/ microphonic tubes.  May have been the prob. RP
> >>> solved by exchanging tubes.
> >>>
> >>> Yes an e-metronome using, for example, a Wien selected tubed
> >>> oscillators, I suspect, would be subject to mechanical coupling.
> >>>
> >>> bc has encountered the prob. in a more modern radio, and made an
> >>> e-metronome in the sixties.
> >>> __
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