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Re: [Phys-L] [SPAM] Re: Private schools



Interesting!

Do we want to educate every child? Yes, of course! We should.
Is there equality? No, of course not! There never will be.*
Do we fund education adequately? Unfortunately, no. Too much politics.

*Unfortunately, life is not fair. My students sometimes say this regarding
something in life. I always respond by saying, "Fair is where you get
cotton candy!" :)



Phys-L@Phys-L.org writes:
Interesting that the private school and voucher supporters always throw
out Sweden, Belgium, etc as models. Yet the same conservatives use them
as well as failed systems of "socialism". They want it both ways.

Another thing the voucher supporters here seem to keep ignoring is my
question... in the guise of first amendment do you actually want your
and my tax dollars in the form of vouchers going to schools that
discriminate on the basis of religion and/ or sectarian beliefs? That
as done in the South when they formed "academies" in the 50's and 60's to
re-segrefate their schools and keep their kids from attending school with
Black kids.

For once I want a response instead of the usual flag waving of freedom of
speech and beliefs. Of course we have that, but if you want to do that
do it with your own dollars not mine.
Oh, I already know their answer: the usual stuff about governmental
supported schools supporting government values. Complete rubbish and
nonsense... the same conservatives who complain about governmental
interference will complain about the values of a few being shoved down
their throats. So, suppose someone sets up a school for gay people...
will you conservatives complain about tax dollars for vouchers for gay
students? Or accept that along with the fundamentalist schools that
receive the same voucher money? Schools for white supremists? schools
for supporters of Black separatism? schools for Santeria followers?
Follow your line of reasoning and there is no reason not to use tax
dollars for whoever wants to open a school for UFO believers. I'm not
talking about denying them their right to believe this... I AM denying
that they should receive TAX DOLLARS to do so. And that's where my
hospital analogy is relevant.

I as talking to a friend who taught for 42 years in Philadelphia where
they have 30 or 40 charter schools. I mentioned this discussion. He
laughed and said that all but 2 or 3 have scores that match or are better
than the publics. The rest lag behind in testing. A dirty little secret
the advocates of charters don't want to publicly acknowledge.

This country has to make a decision... do we want to educate every child
or not? Is there equality or is there not? Do we fund education
adequately or allow certain places to lag and languish?
Do we want a multi-tiered system and Balkanization of education?




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