Re: [Phys-l] NCLB: End It, Don't Mend It

["Anthony Lapinski" <Anthony_Lapinski@pds.org>]

Tenure is good (for the school) for good teachers and bad (for the school)
for bad teachers. I'm at a private school. No tenure for us. We also have
"good" and "bad" teachers. We get yearly contracts, which have lower
salaries than public schools. No pensions. No unions. No strikes. We
generally like what we do, but there's always ways to improve how things
are done.

Forum for Physics Educators <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu> writes:
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 1:25 PM, David Marx wrote:
>
> > ...
> > We also have unionized teachers that may not be able to be fired if
> they are 
> > demonstrably incompetent. ...
>
> Howdy,
>
> Let's see... a teacher doesn't get tenure on being hired. There are
> usually 3--7years of teaching and being evaluated before receiving
> tenure. It seems to me that it is the administration that isn't doing its
> job when poor teachers manage to get tenure.
>
> I've been retired from teaching at a Community College for >10years now
> and one of the reasons I retired when I did was that the administration
> gave an instructor tenure when many instructors, including me, noted that
> he wasn't doing his job competently and the students work in other
> courses suffered from that. It's not tenure that's bad but giving it  to
> folks that are demonstrably incompetent before they have it.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
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