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Re: [Phys-l] Galileo was wrong



Stillman Drake is always an interesting and authoritative read. It is a very complicated history, and lots has been written about it, not all of Drake's caliber.
Drake's personal history is interesting as well.

joe

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On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Hugh Haskell wrote:

At 13:10 -0400 09/20/2010, Jeffrey Schnick wrote:

It is my understanding that the Church told Galileo that it would be
okay for him to say that it is much easier to describe/predict the
motion of the planets in an inertial reference frame centered on the sun
but that he should not say that the sun IS the center of the solar
system / universe. Galileo was championing a good model for
understanding the motions of the planets but he refused to simply claim
that it was a good model and insisted on claiming that it was reality.

I just finished reading a short book by Stillman Drake ("Galileo,"
Hill & Wang, New York, 1980) that proposes a slightly different
reason for what happened to Galileo. In it Drake puts Galileo forth
as a zealous Catholic who was desperately trying to save the church
from error. In the concluding pages, Drake wrote:

"Galileo's own conscience was clear both as Catholic and as
scientist. On one occasion he wrote, almost in despair, that at times
he felt like burning all his work in science; but he never so much as
thought of turning his back on his faith. The Church turned its back
on Galileo, and has suffered not a little for having done so; Galileo
blamed only come wrong-headed individuals in the Church for that."
(p. 92)

and:

"The cause for which Galileo suffered, in his own view, was clearly
not Copernicanism but sound theology and Christian zeal. That
'misapplication of law" to which Galileo referred can hardly have
been his condemnation in 1633, which so far as he was concerned was
an error of fact. What grieved Galileo was the theologians' error of
1616, as an indirect result of which he had been punished. Their
error was in his eyes a misapplication of law established by the
ancient Fathers who had wisely separated science from religion." (p.
93)

Other scholars have attributed the motivation for his punishment to
rival academics who used their influence with Church authorities to
silence Galileo.

Other factors which probably contributed to Galileo's problems were
the 30 years' war, which diverted the attention of the Pope (who had
been a friend and patron of Galileo in the years before his
ascendancy to the papacy), and his creating the role of "Simplicio"
in his "Dialogue" and making him pretty obviously an embodiment of
the Pope, and then putting some pretty outragious words in his mouth.
These passages, when shown to the Pope, were said to have outraged
him and effectively ended any possibility of papal support for
Galileo in his trial.

According to Drake, Galileo accorded little importance to the
distinction between advocating a particular notion and merely
teaching about it. The 1616 document that apparently enjoined Galileo
from even teaching about Copernicanism, is also alleged to have been
a forgery.

A tangled web, indeed.

Hugh
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