Re: [Phys-l] Richard Dawkins Answers Reddit Questions

[Bernard Cleyet <bernardcleyet@redshift.com>]

Seems like an analytic statement to me.  Define religious habits and especially ways of knowing, compare w/ scientific habits and ways of knowing and you'll find they are incompatible.

bc thinks JM forgot what he wrote, and (bc) sometimes has great difficulty understanding the religious mind.

p.s.  I don't think it's anti-religious; it's just don't expect to get very far using religious methods in the lab. Just like don't expect to get very far using arithmetik to solve a differential equation -- well not very good example, as one can use numerical methods which are arithmetik.   If it were a good example, would anyone believe my statement was an attack against arithmeticians?

Initially string theorists were compared to believers, because their results were not testable; well that's changed according to G. Kane (current PT).

On 2010, Nov 16, , at 15:13, William Robertson wrote:

> You stated:
>
> but I would maintain that anyone who brings traditional religious  
> habits and "ways of knowing" into the lab with them, at the very least  
> operates under a very significant handicap.
>
>
> Okay, so I substituted severe for significant. In what other way did I  
> misrepresent what you said?
>
> Bill
>
>
> William C. Robertson, Ph.D.
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:10 PM, John Mallinckrodt wrote:
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> > William Robertson wrote:
> >
> > > You state that anyone with religious beliefs is operating under a  
> > > severe handicap when doing science.
> >
> > Nope; sorry.  Not what I said.  Read it again.
> >
> > > That's not just an unbiased, objective view. It's anti-religion. To  
> > > make such a statement as if it's obvious to everyone is rather  
> > > arrogant and certainly not fair-minded. I believe that's the kind  
> > > of comment that raises Rick's ire.
> >
> > If you want to take issue with what I said, I'm all ears, but please  
> > don't construct and then attack straw men.
> >
> > John Mallinckrodt
> > Cal Poly Pomona
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