Re: [Phys-l] Conservative science?

["John Clement" <clement@hal-pc.org>]

Of course we do.  The Conservapedia is presumably a conservative creation,
and the article on relativity is laughable, to the point of crying.

The info about Obama using relativity to justify abortion is obviously a
blogger's phony creation.  This sort of thing is done by both sides to smear
the other.

As I have repeatedly pointed out, we have a problem in that one party has
bought into anti-science attitudes.  At the very least, the intelligent
people in that party are cowed into silence.

So when are the state standards going to start trying to have physics
teacher present the other side of relativity and modern cosmology in a
similar fashion to how biology teacher have to teach both sides of the
evolution debate?  And will they also require this for state supported
colleges?  At present TX has a law that anyone who is a professor at a state
school must have had a course in TX history.  Even Nobel laureates in
physics are not exempt.  I don't recall this law being repealed.

BTW the problem is not primatily in Houston, as the school districts here do
not teach things like creation science, but it would be an issue in Sante
Fe, TX or West TX, or East TX.  It also would not be a problem in most of
the other very large cities.  So telling Houston we have a problem is a
correct thing to do.  But don't tell the state legislators or governor who
are 75% Republican and known to be anti-science, especially the governor.

John M. Clement
Houston, TX

John M. Clement
Houston, TX


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> Time Dilation and Creation Science
> For a more detailed treatment, see Starlight  problem#Humphreys.27_model.
> Creation scientists such as physicists Dr. Russell Humphreys and Dr. John
> Hartnett have used relativistic time dilation to explain how the earth can
> be  only 6,000 years old even though cosmological data (background
> radiation,
>  supernovae, etc.) set a much older age for the universe.
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> Political aspects of relativity
> Some liberal politicians have extrapolated the theory of relativity to
> metaphorically justify their own political agendas. For example,
> Democratic
> presidential candidate Barack Obama helped publish an article by liberal
> law
> professor Laurence Tribe to apply the relativistic concept of "curvature
> of
> space" to promote a broad legal right to abortion.[45] As of June 2008,
> over 170 law review articles have  cited this liberal application of the
> theory
> of relativity to legal  arguments.[46] Applications of the  theory of
> relativity to change morality have also been common.[47] Moreover, there
> is an
> unmistakable  effort to censor or ostracize criticism of relativity.[48]
> Physicist Robert Dicke of Princeton University was a prominent critic[49]
> of general relativity, and Dicke's  alternative "has enjoyed a renaissance
> in
> connection with theories of higher  dimensional space-time."[50] Despite
> being one of the most accomplished physicists in the 20th century, Dicke
> was
> repeatedly passed over for a Nobel Prize, and in at least one case Dicke
> was  insulted by the award being granted to others for contributions more
> properly  credited to Dicke.
> There has been little recognition by the Nobel Prize committee of either
> theory of relativity, and particularly scant recognition of the Theory of
> General Relativity.
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