Re: [Phys-l] gravitational waves.

[Jack Uretsky <jlu@hep.anl.gov>]

Hi all-
	The proposed analogy with the Higgs search at the LHC is a poor 
one.  There are credible proposals for a no0-Higgs scenario as part of the 
standard model.  Stronge evidence for the existence of gravity waves is 
found in the observations for which Taylor and Hulse received a Nobel.
							regards,
								Jack

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Hugh Haskell wrote:

> At 06:54 -0500 10/26/2010, Bill Nettles wrote:
> > It did bother me a bit that there was never any indication on the
> > poster that we haven't detected any gravitational waves. I'm
> > reluctant to post the poster without a disclaimer so that my
> > students won't assume the waves have been measured.  Contrast this
> > with the  publicity surrounding LHC and the Higgs particle ... it's
> > very clear that it hasn't been measured.
> It is true that no direct detection of gravity waves has occurred,
> but the fact that the rotational frequency decay rate of several
> carefully measured pulsars can be exactly accounted for by the
> emission of gravitational energy (gravitons) is considered pretty
> conclusive evidence of their existence by the community.
>
> One must also recall that the existence of neutrinos was assumed to
> be settled long before they were actually detected (otherwise, why
> would it have taken 40 years before the feat was recognized by the
> Nobel Committee?).
>
> I do agree. however. that in the interests of full disclosure the
> chart needs to be clear that the waveform graphs are theoretical, and
> no "direct" detection of gravity waves has yet taken place--which
> isn't to say that there remains any significant controversy over
> their existence.
>
> Hugh
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