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Re: [Phys-l] Harmonics vs Overtones



On 04/01/2009 09:12 AM, Dan Crowe wrote:

I don't understand the distinction that you're making between a set
and a series. In mathematics, a series is a sum, but a set is not a
sum, but that doesn't seem to be the distinction you're making. Are
you implying that the elements in a series are defined by a simple
mathematical rule, but the elements of a set are not necessarily
defined by a simple mathematical rule? If yes, then how simple does
the mathematical rule have to be?

Please don't ask me to explain what "series" means in this
context; I was arguing that it was a misnomer. If you are
arguing that it is a misnomer several times over, that's OK
with me.

The only reason I brought up "series" at all is that it seems
to be common parlance in this context; see e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music)

Even beyond the strict mathematical notion that series means
sum, all forms of the word "series" share a notion of _sequential_
arrangement, like beads on a string. So when I hear the term
"harmonic series" I picture a well-ordered one-dimensional
arrangement. But the physical facts do not agree with this
picture. In general it is a multi-dimensional arrangement.
It is not well-ordered by kx (because of ky and polarization)
and not well-ordered by ky (because of kx and polarization) and
not well-ordered by frequency (because of degeneracy).

Bottom line: AFAICT, no matter what you think "series" means,
the term "harmonic series" doesn't fit. It's a misnomer.