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Date: Tue May 06 10:13:20 CDT 2008
From: "John Denker" <jsd@av8n.com>
Subject: [Phys-l] failure is always an option
To: "Forum for Physics Educators" <phys-l@carnot.physics.buffalo.edu>
So, before you look at the numbers, would you like to guess?
-- What are typical 4-year persistence numbers?I wonder if they stuck strictly to 4 years or if it was in the time allotted for their program. One of my friends is enrolled at Rochester IT and he knew it was a 5-year going in.
-- What is the overall range, from lowest to highest?Maybe as low as 20% and as high as 75-80%
-- Which schools are highest?Harvard, MIT, Monmouth probably have the highest completion rate.
-- Which are lowest?Arizona, UC Santa Cruz,
-- Where does your school fit in?Sadly, I think my school is probably pretty bad with this. Although, as John pointed out, these numbers aren't exactly indicative of dropout rate. For instance, I know I would qualify as a dropout because I went to school and then served and then came back and started school again. Did I "drop out?" I suppose technically, but who cares? I learned other valuable lessons in my time in...I don't think that should be counted as a "negative."