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[Phys-l] defn of capacitance



Some of us (locally) have been discussing the definition of capacitance (restricted for simplicity to the case of two isolated conductors only) and we seem to have run across a problem with how to define it if the charges on the two conductors are NOT (necessarily) equal and opposite. For simplicity let's say that we only have vacuum outside of both conductors.

My initial stab at a definition was the following: Capacitance is uniquely defined if I specify the geometry of the two conductors (shapes, sizes, separations, etc) as delta(V)/Q where delta(V) is the absolute value of the line integral of E between the two conductors and Q is the absolute value of the average difference in charges of the two plates (ie. half of the difference in charges on the two plates).

Here's an example for the case of two parallel plates, charge Qa on the left plate and Qb on the right plate each of area A. Say Qa>Qb for specificity.

between the plates E = Qa/2*A*e - Qb/2*A*e where e=1/4*pi*k
so delta(V) = (Qa-Qb)*d/2*A*e where d=distance between plates
but Q=(Qa-Qb)/2
conclude C=Q/delta(V)=A*e/d as usual

Note the answer doesn't matter what charges we put on the two plates. But now here's a case where the answer DOES depend on them, which seems to contradict the usual idea of capacitance being independent of charge:

Choose two concentric spheres, an inner one of radius a and an outer one of radius b. Place charge Qa on the inner one and Qb on the outer one. Again say Qa>Qb for specificity.

between the spheres E = k*Qa/r^2 independent of Qb
so delta(V) = k*Qa*(b-a)/a*b
but Q=(Qa-Qb)/2
conclude C depends on the charges!

Please fix my definition of C for the case of two isolated conductors in vacuum carrying charges which are not necessarily equal and opposite. As a test, demonstrate that your fixed definition works for both of the examples listed above. -Carl
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