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Re: [Phys-l] Intelligent designists fight back.



"... viable [?] belief systems."



I suggest this "second type of truth -- placebo like" is a poor second to intelligent. active, aggressive, effort to ameliorate their status. If a supernatural belief system assists OK, but I fail to see it as necessary.
bc


Brian Whatcott wrote:

At 05:48 PM 1/5/2008, John Clements, you wrote:


The ID people have never thought ahead that if the gaps in understanding are
closed, then their primary argument for ID and hence for God is also gone.
So I contend that ID proponents do not know how science works. It works by
creating models of what we observe. It can not propose unseen, untestable
agents....
John M. Clement
Houston, TX



I contend, that in the American context in particular, there are many
non-religious scientists who think that when the chinks, cracks and gaps
in our scientific understanding are closed, there will be no further point
in religious belief.

I further contend that these scientists in general, do not understand how
religion works. But there again, a good proportion of religious people
are in the same mind-set - though I think I see signs that clerics,
priests, pastors, and gurus of other flavors have a better concept:
that there is a more 'divine' effect on peoples' affairs when
more of them have viable belief systems.

In particular, that the disenfranchised, the poor, the weak,
the fallible, the criminal, the sinful (no matter how defined)
do better in general, (the incidence of vengeful religious
persecution in some cases notwithstanding) and that even the
beneficent, the forgivers, the helpers, the supporters have
their own social or psychic rewards....




Brian Whatcott Altus OK Eureka!
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