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Re: [Phys-l] Phys-l Digest, Vol 36, Issue 1



On Jan 1, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Alfredo Louro wrote:

If you change the initial conditions, you must get a different
stable orbit, I think. There is no reason why it should decay
back to the original initial conditions before you perturbed
it. It seems to me you are solving two different problems.

I agree. That is why I now think that defining stability in terms of "returning to the original state of motion" (state of motion before a small perturbation was applied) is not reasonable. In view of my experience with I.P. simulations, I now think that stability, in situations being discussed, should be defined in terms of the loss of periodicity. For a two-body system periodicity is not lost (a singular circular orbit is replaced by two coupled elliptical orbits), but in the case of the three-body system, periodicity is lost and motion becomes chaotic (after the same kind of perturbation). All this can be simulated in I.P.
P.S.
The first thing I did, in this year 2008, was to simulate a pencil standing vertically on its sharp point. We know that, in reality, this kind of equilibrium is unstable. But the pencil on my screen remained vertical. Why was it so? Because the I.P. code ignores minute disturbances which are always present. The pencil started falling when a tiny additional weight was places on a side of its flat upper surface. I love I.P.
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