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[Phys-L] Re: What students will do. (was: Physics Solutions Manual)



Jack,

Out of curiousity, what was your answer?

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Joel Rauber
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Forum for Physics Educators
| [mailto:PHYS-L@list1.ucc.nau.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Uretsky
| Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:31 PM
| To: PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU
| Subject: Re: What students will do. (was: Physics Solutions Manual)
|
| Hi all-
| Stop me if I've told this one.
| A few years ago I was teaching a statics class to
| some juniors at a nearby university. I assigned homework and
| reading weekly. One student said to me: "Why do I have to
| read this stuff? What are they paying you for?" I hope it
| is needless to say that I had an anwer for him.
| Regards,
| Jack
|
| On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Bernard Cleyet wrote:
|
| > Thanks, George.
| >
| > Even w/ a free text some won't read it. The last week of
| my ten week
| > stint teaching Chem. at North High several of my "A"
| students admitted
| > they never opened the text except to do the assigned chapter end
| > problems. They said they got all they needed from my lectures. A
| > left handed compliment on my teaching?
| >
| > bc, if he had the chance would now minimize the "direct" method
| >
| > Spagna Jr., George wrote:
| >
| >> Bernard asks
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> p.s. George, did you readopt a text because their grades
| plummeted?
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >> And Joel adds
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> Or because you got tired of listening to the complaints on student
| >>>
| >>>
| >> evaluations?
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>> Or, what was the reason?
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >> It's a bit more complicated - top grades slipped a little,
| and more
| >> students "fell off" the bottom of the distribution. More
| >> importantly, it became clear that by not using a set
| textbook we were
| >> apparently
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| > cut
| >
|
| --
| "Trust me. I have a lot of experience at this."
| General Custer's unremembered message to his men,
| just before leading them into the Little Big
| Horn Valley
|
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