[Phys-L] Re: Warning: Don't ask for Library loans on Political Topics

[Bernard Cleyet <anngeorg@PACBELL.NET>]

John Denker wrote:  [2004-11-11]

> Mark Shapiro asked, Are the Forces of Darkness on the March?
>
> What kind of softball question is that? The forces of
> darkness have been on the rampage for quite some time.
>
> Some aspects of this are IMHO well within the charter of
> this group.
>
> 1) For starters, the topic of "science policy and policymaking"
> ought to be in-bounds. As I mentioned a few months ago, there
> is some pretty good documentation available from the Union of
> Concerned Scientists:
>
> > Since the release of the [first] UCS report in February, the
> > administration has continued to undermine the integrity of science in
> > policy ...

cut

> It's the triumph of dogma over reality.



I add, it's our duty to support all education and research, not just in
science.



I thought I'd posted the following, but can't find it in my sent file
(3576 since April 2003):

When I resided in Berkeley my then wife [grad. stu. Music @ UCB] was
interviewed by an FBI agent while I was out teaching at Napa JC.  He
said the editor of, if memory serves, The Peoples World was harassing
people to get subscriptions.  I had sub'd, and it certainly wasn't after
harassment.  Later I put two and two together. A week or two before my
mail, for at least a week, was delayed a day compared w/ our friends in
the front house [We lived behind in a cottage.],  that is the Nation,
The Berkeley Barb, the Berk. Co-Op News, etc.  Mail checks are illegal,
but I didn't learn that 'till much later.


Did they steal the subscription list or do a mail check of that pub?

This post will certainly increase the weight of my file



So my point:  This kind of behavior has always been w/ us, since at
least the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 *.  However, now it's very
wide spread and something to fear.



*  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts


bc, who inherited his father's French copy of The Little Red Book.

p.s. Note how the DHS succeeded in suppressing the terrorism course, and
the first time I Googled Alien and sedition law, after an unusually long
time, paraphrased, "empty document" appeared.  I tried again w/ quotes
around A & s, and obtained the above page.  It's common knowledge Google
cooperates w/ China in censoring some sites.  What does it do here?


Brian Whatcott wrote:
> Agents' visit chills UMass Dartmouth senior
> By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer
>
>
>   NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal
> agents two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome
> on Communism called "The Little Red Book."
>
>   Two history professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and
> Robert Pontbriand, said the student told them he requested the book
> through the UMass Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program.
>
>   The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for
> Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out
> a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and
>   Social Security number. He was later visited at his parents' home in
>   New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security,
> the professors said.
>
> Remainder of article is found at this paper, on line:
>    <http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm>
>
>
>
> Brian Whatcott    Altus OK    Eureka!
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