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[Phys-L] Re: A Letter to Juliet from Richard Dawkins - part 2



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From: "John Clement" <clement@HAL-PC.ORG>
To: <PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: A Letter to Juliet from Richard Dawkins - part 2



"Scientists - the specialists in discovering what is true".

Really? What is "true". I always thought we determined what was untrue.


Actually we do neither. We create consistent models to be able to explain
physical things. These models are not true because it is recognized that
they all have limitations, and they are one way of explaining what we
currently view as being the "facts". Facts are also not necessarily true
because as you delve deeper there are often modifications to them. A
particular model may be only true for limited circumstances such as
Hooke's
law, or more generally applicable such as Newton's laws. Often a model
that
is considered to be fairly general can't be used in certain circumstances,
so we must use another model which is acknowledged as being more limited.
All of these models use physical evidence and do not admit supernatural
agents.

I certainly agree with most of the above, but the falsifiable premise is a
cornerstone of the scientific process. The process identifies that which is
clearly false. It certainly doesn't identify that which is "true"

What I have said certainly rehashes much old ground and is not news to the
members of this list. I think that if we all presented science in this
light, most of the debate about ID, creationism... would vanish.

I heartily agree.

This definition also gets rid of the contentious word "theory". If
we then substituted model for theory in our writings, people with
any religious faith would be far more comfortable with science.

There is no justifiable reason for science to be the enemy of religion, nor
religion to be the enemy of science. That things have reached this point is
highly regretable. I applaud your point of view.
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