[Phys-L] Re: [SPAM-6.111] Re: [SPAM-4.611] Re: THE WEDGE STRATEGY of The ID Movement

[rlamont at POSTOFFICE.PROVIDENCE.EDU (rlamont)]

I have watched as the 'SPAM' designations on the subject line
have multiplied. Is this truly an evolution of the subject line
or is there an Intelligent Designer determining its course?

:-)

Bob at PC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forum for Physics Educators [mailto:PHYS-
> L@list1.ucc.nau.edu] On Behalf Of John M Clement
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:27 PM
> To: PHYS-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SPAM-6.111] Re: [SPAM-4.611] Re: THE WEDGE
> STRATEGY of The ID Movement
>
> It think that a discussion of the morality of abortion is far
beyond
> this list.  Certainly Creationism or ID do impinge on physics
research
> and education because once it is allowed into biology,
cosmology
> would
> be next.  In addition general science education should be a
topic for
> this list.
>
> The morality has actually varied from age to age and from one
sect to
> another.  At one time the Christian position that there was no
baby
> until it quickened.  The Jewish tradition considered the baby
to be a
> person on the 8th day when it was named.  Some in the medical
> community have argued that the baby is a person when the
nervous
> system has developed.  No amount of argument on a list like
this will
> convince anyone that their position is correct.
>
> For those who wish to say that a fetus is a person, what is a
person
> who developed from 2 eggs?  This actually happens.  Once in a
while
> a
> single individual develops from 2 different fertalized eggs and
they
> have different genes in different parts of the body.  The DNA
> extracted from saliva my have a completely different profile
from that
> taken from internal organs.  There have even been individuals
with
> both male and female genetics.
>
> Perhaps it would be better to cast stones privately rather than
on the
> list.  Of do this on a more suitable list.
>
> John M. Clement
> Houston, TX
> > > No read Fetus. Calling a collection of embryo cells a baby is
a nice
> > > trick.
> > It is a baby, an unborn one maybe, but alive and responsive.
Exiting
> > from the birth canal magically confers personhood on th
infant?
> >