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[Phys-L] Re: [SPAM-4.611] Re: THE WEDGE STRATEGY of The ID Movement



Or one might say that the decline in moral basis in our society allows
governments to do things that would have prompted massive opposition in
earlier generations, when the US was still a "Christian?" nation and at
least paid official "lip-service" to christian principles.
James Mackey

Robert B Zannelli wrote:

In a message dated 10/12/2005 9:29:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
trebor@WINBEAM.COM writes:

The underlying premise of this tirade seems to be that civilized behavior
can only be motivated by theistic injunctions. This is the error that needs
correction. Why not start a movement toward fostering reason-based
civility?

Bob Sciamanda

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Bob this movement exist, it's called Humanism. And the notion that we need
theism to have civilized behavior is like saying we need Hitler for good
government. Seems to me that that those countries with the least religious
influence are by far the most civilized. The decent of the United States into
promoting and committing torture and mass murder has coincided with the increased
influence of religion in Government.

Bob Zannelli


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