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Re: Way,WAY off topic diatribe -was : Paying to present



I have a slightly different perspective on this issue. I
stopped going to meetings such as this a long time ago.
Except for a few invited papers, most of the presentations
are "publish for promotion" material. It is rare when you
see a presentation that is more than some inconsequential
tweaking of well know material. Charging someone a fee for
the privilege of self promotion does not bother me in the
least.

I think the event that turned me sour on the value of
meetings was when presentations from the Maharishi
Institute (I'm sure I have the name wrong) were treated
with equal standing as any other presenters in the physics
community. I suddenly realized that if you were willing to
pay, you could have your 15 minutes.

Bob at PC

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On 3/5/2004 at 11:59 PM Hugh Haskell wrote:

At 22:32 -0600 3/5/04, Brian Whatcott wrote:

To me, it is like having a guest speaker
at a graduation commencement and right before they
get on stage and give their speech, you tell them there
is an
entrance fee of $$$ into the building.
>
In this case, I suspect that the speakers know that the
entrance fee
for them may well be in the millions.:-)

As for registration fees for speakers, I rather suspect
that it
depends--on what organization it is, whether you are an
invited or a
contributing speaker, whether they had an abstract fee for
submitting
the abstract, and perhaps some other things. At some
conferences one
can register for only the day they will be on site. At
others, the
only time when it makes a difference is if you try to
enter the
exhibit area.

All things being equal, I would say that it was rather
chintzy of
them to insist on registration in order for you to give
your
talk--especially if they had not said anything about it
before then.
I understand your interest in sharing what you had done,
which seemed
well worthwhile, but I might just have told them to
"****-off" and
gone home. Maybe not the wisest choice, but then again, I
can have a
rather low flash point when I think I'm being jerked
around.

Hugh
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